#JAILTOTHECHIEF- Shit Just Got Real

[Kara Spengler]

I will give the Rs credit that they know how to do good attack ads.

 

[Jopsy Pendragon]

Shame that the original intent of combining the best elements of both a Democracy and a Republic ended up giving us a hybrid of the worst of each.

 

[Kara Spengler]

Shame that the original intent of combining the best elements of both a Democracy and a Republic ended up giving us a hybrid of the worst of each.

Well, we got the musical Hamilton from it.

 

[Isabeau]

 

[Pamela]

And that's exactly how free, democratic nations slide into fascism. The complacent "But that could never happen to US, not HERE" mindset. Germany went down that road from a sophisticated, cosmopolitan nation to Nazis burning people in ovens because people didn't take Hitler seriously.

Just unbelievable!


Yep, I get this from my husband constantly. I tell him either that something shocking has happened or will happen and he accuses me of exaggerating or reading From some fake news source. And yes, these are outrageous things. But they are true. You don’t have to be a genius to connect the dots.

I told him to stop Telling me I am “getting it wrong” because I keep up with the actual news (And twitter) better than he does,

 

[Kamilah Hauptmann]

 

[Innula Zenovka]

 

[Kara Spengler]

In other words, he had no idea why she was in the news.

 

[Innula Zenovka]

In other words, he had no idea why she was in the news.

Considering the reporter had just mentioned the fact that she is in prison awaiting trial and asked him "do you feel she's going to turn in powerful men" I think he may have had a vague idea what the question was about.

Trump on accused Epstein sex crimes accomplice Ghislaine Maxwell: 'I wish her well'

President Donald Trump socialized years ago with accused child sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein and his accused procurer, Ghislaine Maxwell.

www.cnbc.com

 

[Innula Zenovka]

 

[Kara Spengler]

Considering the reporter had just mentioned the fact that she is in prison awaiting trial and asked him "do you feel she's going to turn in powerful men" I think he may have had a vague idea what the question was about.

Trump on accused Epstein sex crimes accomplice Ghislaine Maxwell: 'I wish her well'

President Donald Trump socialized years ago with accused child sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein and his accused procurer, Ghislaine Maxwell.

www.cnbc.com

I would not give it credit it would say 4 if you asked what is 2 plus 2.

 

[Innula Zenovka]

I would not give it credit it would say 4 if you asked what is 2 plus 2.

Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

 

[Kara Spengler]

Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

Someone pointed out something before. Those were probably the closest things to him (physically or mentally) during the interview. Coincidence?

 

[Cindy Claveau]

Why progressives should welcome anti-Trump Republicans

Those who genuinely embrace a creed or hold passionately to a point of view are, in principle, always looking for converts. Yet the old believers are often suspicious of the new arrivals.
Sometimes, the converts are annoyingly rigid and sectarian. This can bother those who are long comfortable in their faith and thus at ease with pluralism. But there is also the opposite fear: that the new allies haven’t really changed their thinking and are only trying to sow heretical notions among the orthodox.

It is the second anxiety that animates an unease among some progressives about anti-Trump Republicans and conservatives. This has fostered a limited but vocal backlash against the idea that John Kasich, the Republican former Ohio governor, might address the scaled-back Democratic National Convention on behalf of presumptive nominee Joe Biden.
The easy answer to this apprehension is to say that if you believe (as I certainly do) that defeating President Trump is the prerequisite for anything good happening again in American politics, you should welcome everyone willing to help get the job done. And in light of Trump’s threats to challenge the results if he loses, the health of our democracy may depend on Biden’s winning by a landslide that would leave not a smidgen of doubt about what the voters were saying. This is an all-hands-on-deck proposition.

 

[Aribeth Zelin]

Why progressives should welcome anti-Trump Republicans

without reading this, I agree. Look, most people, most normal, non-pschotic people, want the best for their country. We might not agree on what that is, but we can agree that is what we want.

If we're ever going to go back away from sports-team, us vs them politics, we need to compromise again, and also be willing to accept, for a time, the enemy of our enemy.

And now going to read it.

 

[Argent Stonecutter]

Shame that the original intent of combining the best elements of both a Democracy and a Republic ended up giving us a hybrid of the worst of each.

A democracy and a republic are not comparable. They are measures of different things. It's comparing apples and applecarts.

 

[Govi]

U.S. Constitution, Article One, Clause 1:

"The House of Representatives shall be composed of Members chosen every second Year by the People of the several States, and the Electors in each State shall have the Qualifications requisite for Electors of the most numerous Branch of the State Legislature. "

Sure sounds like the House is democratically elected. Extending Jopsy's point, our federal government is a hybrid of democratic and plutocratic forms; further, lacking a hereditary monarch, it includes the republican principle, too.

 

[Innula Zenovka]

I'm in the middle of reading These Truths, by Jill LePore, and from what she says, the US started out as a more or less aristocratic republic, dominated by wealthy Virginian slave-owners, and the power of the less wealthy, and, later, all white males gradually increasing as the direct franchise was extended them, pretty much regardless of income, a process which culminated in the election of Andrew Jackson, Steve Bannon's favourite president, in 1828.

The pressure for the extension of direct democracy apparently came as much from the economic interests of the slave-owning states as it did from any other direction, for economic reasons too complicated to go into here, but remember that slaves counted as three fifths of a free white American for the purposes of allocating seats in Congress and members of the Electoral College, so the votes of white voters in slave-owning states counted more than did those of their fellow white American men in free states.

These Truths: A History of the United States: Amazon.co.uk: Jill Lepore: 9780393635249: Books

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www.amazon.co.uk

 

[Pamela]

U.S. Constitution, Article One, Clause 1:

Sure sounds like the House is democratically elected. Extending Jopsy's point, our federal government is a hybrid of democratic and plutocratic forms; further, lacking a hereditary monarch, it includes the republican principle, too.

The Senate is a relic that needs to go but try as I may I don’t see how that could ever happen. Citizens in large states will forever be underrepresented. As if the electoral college Didn’t already disenfranchise us enough.

 

[Kara Spengler]

The Senate is a relic that needs to go but try as I may I don’t see how that could ever happen. Citizens in large states will forever be underrepresented. As if the electoral college Didn’t already disenfranchise us enough.

That is why we have a hor as well as a senate.