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I still hope to buy a desktop later this year but I need a cheap utilitarian used laptop. I. Don't envision this as an SL computer but it would be nice if it could do 5 fps with everything turned off.

Can any of these run SL. in absolute lowest settings ?

HUD 620 or HUD 510 ?
What about Radion 540 or 530?

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Look at Asus gaming models. They have good graphics and they hold up well, so a used model should be able to run SL at good settings.
 

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It's not currently available but I have this Acer Aspire 15 and it runs everything just fine on default, though sometimes I dump it down if it's crowded.

Granted when I am in world on my Laptop, it's usually building alone in my sandbox area or at a Builders Brewery Class.


It was around $500 originally though. I think the main thing would be any sort of separate GPU, even if it's not amazing.
 
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Ah , when I say "cheap utilitarian used. laptop" I mean
Less than $150 ;)

I mostly plan on using it just
t for organizing apps , listening to audio and reading VV! All I really need is a tablet but I d rather have a normal keyboard.

Noodles, your Acer has impeded Intelligence 620 UHD graphics. That's the best graphics I have seen available in the $150 & under range. Have you ever attempted to run SL with the embedded graphics only?

Ten years ago I managed to log in and slowly walk around a bit (with absoloutly everything nonessential turned off) using an Atom based 166 Ghz baby Asus!

I'm hoping that a slow I3 with UHD graphics might be able to rez me in world as well (badly) as the atom based Asus see could back in 2010

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Noodles, your Acer has impeded Intelligence 620 UHD graphics. That's the best graphics I have seen available in the $150 & under range. Have you ever attempted to run SL with the embedded graphics only?
I was on a laptop with embedded-only graphics for years and was doing DJ and other show-related stuff for my club. As long as you don't mind distance set to 64sqm and everything in the graphics settings turned off so that avatars appear a few levels above stick figures, you can get by in SL.
 
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Robert, if you really could use a tablet for what you want to do, you might check out this one:


It's an "order from China" deal that won't deliver until mid-April, but it has pretty nice specs. No chance of SL on it, though, as it is Android.

Tablet plus case, $146.22 at the moment. Free shipping.
 
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Robert, if you really could use a tablet for what you want to do, you might check out this one:


It's an "order from China" deal that won't deliver until mid-April, but it has pretty nice specs. No chance of SL on it, though, as it is Android.

Tablet plus case, $146.22 at the moment. Free shipping.
This kind of makes me think of an unrelated issue (in true VVO derailment fasion).

I really hate that the market for Android Tablets that aren't direct from China, seems like it completely vaporized at some point.
 
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This kind of makes me think of an unrelated issue (in true VVO derailment fasion).

I really hate that the market for Android Tablets that aren't direct from China, seems like it completely vaporized at some point.
I found that very tablet on Amazon, but for about $17 more. Delivers in a couple of days, though.


And there's always the Kindle Fire 10 inch model -- that's just $110 for the 32 Gb model. That's "sort of" Android, I think. Unless they finally gave up and unlocked them.
 
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I was on a laptop with embedded-only graphics for years and was doing DJ and other show-related stuff for my club. As long as you don't mind distance set to 64sqm and everything in the graphics settings turned off so that avatars appear a few levels above stick figures, you can get by in SL.
I love you!

OK, now. We*re on the same page! The best embedded GPU that'. I've seen on CL or eBay for $150. 00
was a Dell i3 8th generation slow 2.1 Ghz cpu with intel UHD 620 graphics and that sold quickly. I'll have to be patient to find another one under $200.

Other. Examples include GPU s that test lower that test lower :

- 7th gen I3 running 2.4 Gh gen with uhd 610 or Radion 520
-6rh gen I3 at 2;1 ghz
- 3rd gen I3 or duo core cpu running at up to 2.8 Ghz

If I understand Free correctly all the above would allow me to res and look at at SL as long as I didn't move. My question is would a 7th gen 2.1 GHz uhd 620 run a. bit better than the others enough to be with the search?

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I still have my 13" Lenovo Yoga with a i7-4500U and 4400HD embedded graphics. It's been a long while since I used it with SL (as you might imagine!), but I'll try it out tonight and report how it does in a number of activities.

The issue will be the i3 on the systems you reference, which I have no experience with at any gen. I don't know how much more crippled it will make the experience.
 
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I still have my 13" Lenovo Yoga with a i7-4500U and 4400HD embedded graphics. It's been a long while since I used it with SL (as you might imagine!), but I'll try it out tonight and report how it does in a number of activities.
So I spent about 90 minutes tonight wandering around doin' stuff in Second Life in locations not too populated, on my nearly 8 year old laptop.

At first I tried Mid graphic settings. I did a bit of walking and such, but there are now a lot of walls with my avatar's face imprint. I was maybe reaching FPS in the high 20s at the best of times.

Shifting to Low graphic settings helped. I was able to move around a lot more confidently, with only occasional dips and burps in the framerate. Much of the world looked, as one would expect, bad. Or plain, if you will. But I was able to get around, chat, etc.

I had a couple drops during teleporting to different sims, but I was some distance from my wireless router, so this likely had more to do with that.

My takeaway: Don't do Second Life on an 8+ year old laptop with embedded graphics unless you have no better alternatives. It would certainly be a horrible first impression of it. Long-time SLers might be able to take it in stride, assuming it's not for long durations inworld and more of a backup option.
 
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Free: Could you tell me the actual model # of your old Lenovo Yoga? I want to compare it to the other laptops I'm looking at.

My therapist says I over think everything, but what does she know!

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It's 20266. If it helps, I had one of the orange ones...
 

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That would be a Yoga 2 13 pro.

Great ! Next step is to compare the graphics test scores of the Yoga with the scores of the laptops I'm looking and it will be easy to find which are as good as the Yoga. Except that the different reviews reference different graphics tests !!!

ergg ... !
 

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Gpucheck and notebookrevews both tend to be helpful.
 
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I 've made a list of computers and checked reviews on PC mag laptop review notebook review. I'd hoped to compare the HD 11 graphics scores; but some of the reviews show that score and some don't, so ...
I've looked up the stats of at least 15+ laptops, and the most likely suspects (limited to currently on ebay and CL ) so far include Latitude 3450, e5450, e6400 etc; Lenovo t430 or t550
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Over the years I ran SL on dell 620, 630, 630d, E6410 models, HP elitebook 8540w, 8440p, 6930p models. Usually I had to not use advance light ( single digit fps) and draw around 96m. Other than running warm but not danger hot, they held up well.
 

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I received the laptop 2 1/2 weeks ago but I ordered a power cord separately. I'Ve attempted to chart it's progress from Georgia to CT. Two trackers say it was on it's way to New Jersey 12 days ago but can't tell where it is now. That's not satisfying info but hopefully its on a truck somewhere ....

On the other hand the official tracker that I was told to use says:

Don't worry; your package has cleared. Hong Kong customs and will be delivered to your local warehouse in China very soon.


. . . hmm ...