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[Beebo Brink]

But she overdid at a lot in her UN speech when she claimed that her childhood was stolen. This is overdramatization, something a rhetoric element which might be valuable, but here it is just way over the top and plainly wrong, and damages her credibility a lot.

The fact that she is in the middle of a political movement instead of home, the fact that she is wrestling with the spectre of global catastrophe during her lifetime, THAT has indeed stolen her childhood. To call that "overdramatization" just proves that you are in deep denial of just how bad things are going to get for the people who are children right now.

Fact is, that in the last few decades mankind on a global scale made drastic - in our countries often unnoticed progress and improvements - in important areas, namely e.g.:

* since 1970 the percentage of underfed people went down from 28% to 11%,
* during the 20th century over 100 millions died because of war, in the last two decades less than 2 million,
* life expectancy went from 30 years in 1800 up to 72 years today,
* the infant mortality rate in the same time frame went down from 44% to 4%.

Not one single "improvement" you've listed has anything at all to do with climate change, except for adding to it. Increased populations, longer life expectancies have all increased greenhouse gas emissions, which are still going up at an alarming rate.

Panic, like she is displaying it, is never a good advisor. It needs to be discussed in a more constructive and calm manner.

Her "panic" is rage at complacency and inaction. There is fuckall being done in a "constructive and calm manner" to prevent our species from self-destructing. And it's reactions such as yours -- more affronted by her tone and than by her urgent message -- that feed my own belief that climate change is going to knock us back into the stone age, assuming we even survive.

 

[Beebo Brink]

Apparently I haven't posted this article before, but it's an excellent description of what the IPCC timelines really mean. Even if I believe they're overly optimistic -- given recent research and the continuous mantra of "happening faster than expected -- it's still a more nuanced view of what lies ahead.

What Does '12 Years to Act on Climate Change' (Now 11 Years) Really Mean? - Inside Climate News

We’ve been hearing variations of the phrase “the world only has 12 years to deal with climate change” a lot lately. Sen. Bernie Sanders put a version of it front and center of his presidential campaign last week, saying we now have “less than 11 years left to transform our energy system away...

insideclimatenews.org

This quote especially, stood out for me in my re-reading of the article:

Missing the target doesn't imply the onset of cataclysmic climate change in 2030, Denning said.

"Things just keep getting worse and worse until we stop making them worse, and then they never get better," he said. "But no matter what, the world has to move on from fossil fuels just as we moved on from tallow candles and outhouses and land lines."

The possibility of tipping points isn't really addressed by that perspective, but then we can't predict where those tipping points are, or even if they exist. So another more dire scenario is that we stop TRYING to make things worse, but can't. That's worst case scenario. Best case scenario is what Denning outlines.

 

[Romana]

Preacher wants to pay Greta Thunberg $100K to debate him:

Christian preacher Josh Feuerstein offers Greta Thunberg $100K to ‘debate’ him: ‘Who wants to see this?’

Joshua Feuerstein has quite a Rolodex of mind-numbing takes. He loves guns, and he thinks the Second Amendment originated in the bible. He once seemingly threatened to fill Black Lives Matter with “60 rounds of lead.” He once posted a video to Facebook literally calling for violence against...

deadstate.org

She should do it so that she could donate the money to environmental causes.
Oh yeah, and make him look a right climate-change-denying idiot .

 

[Innula Zenovka]

THE GRETA THUNBERG PROBLEM, so many men freaking out about the tiny Swedish climate demon

The cartoon (by First Dog on the Moon) can't be linked or downloaded, and is too long to fit into a single screenshot.

So I am putting the first three frames here, and the rest behind the spoiler. Or people could just use the link, I suppose.

THE GRETA THUNBERG PROBLEM, so many men freaking out about the tiny Swedish climate demon | First Dog on the Moon

Is she the brainwasher or brainwashee?

www.theguardian.com

Spoiler

 

[Kamilah Hauptmann]

Frenchie snow communists cuck right wing talking heads.

 

[Innula Zenovka]

While looking for the Weather Forecast for the UK later this week, I came across this explainer, on the official UK government Meteorological Office website, which I found very helpful, and thought others might like to have the link

What is climate change?

Climate change refers to a large-scale, long-term shift in the planet's weather patterns and average temperatures.

www.metoffice.gov.uk

 

[Beebo Brink]

One climate change topic that gets less attention than it merits is the threat to financial stability. As the cost of rebuilding coastal areas and fire zones continues to climb, we'll face some sobering choices. And these financial upheavals will, ironically enough, curtail our ability to transition over to green technologies.

Climate Risk in the Housing Market Has Echoes of Subprime Crisis, Study Finds (Published 2019)

After hurricanes, mortgage lenders offload more of their vulnerable loans to Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, whose rules prevent them from saying no.

www.nytimes.com

 

[Jopsy Pendragon]

I had hoped that Climate Change would be nicer in San Diego. The extra heat-vacuum of the inland desert pulls cool ocean air over the town, keeping us at or below 75°F(24°C) more of the summer/autumn. Haven't turned on the A/C once this year.

Now, this formerly dry and mostly bug-less desert coastline is now damp, muggy and a breeding ground for mosquitoes, crickets and other pests. As well as mold/mildew. (I haaate crickets, I think I'm like 1% autistic and for some reason can't tune out ticking clocks, crickets, drips and other repetitive noises.)

I'd rather have the heat back.

 

[Innula Zenovka]

'I lost my house to climate change'

Vietnam is one of the most vulnerable countries to climate change - we meet the families on the front lines.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Beebo Brink]

Hurricane Lorenzo Is Too Strong For Where It Is - Let’s Deal With The Climate Change Question

A hype-free "101" on Hurricane Lorenzo, how unusual it is and climate change.

www.forbes.com

The bottom line is that Category 5 storms are already rare, and Hurricane Lorenzo is unprecedented in the record-keeping era. We just don’t see hurricanes at this intensity so far east and north because water temperatures are typically too cold and wind shear conditions can also be restrictive.

 

[Innula Zenovka]

Greta Thunberg’s defiance unsettles the patriarchy – wonderful | Suzanne Moore

The 16-year-old climate-emergency activist refuses to kowtow to old men, and it has left them squirming, writes Guardian columnist Suzanne Moore

www.theguardian.com

She is a 16-year-old, and these are grown men. And they are terrified. Wonderful. Who knew you could shake the patriarchy simply by refusing to smile for it, dress for it or demur to it? A refusal to acquiesce to the male gaze has these dinosaurs squirming.

 

[Beebo Brink]

5 Things To Know About Greta Thunberg’s Climate Activism (The Onion)

 

[Bartholomew Gallacher]

Thunberg is easy to understand: she gives credit where credit is due in terms of battling climate change. The vast majority of politicians has just been beating around the bush since decades and therefore worsening her generations' future, so no credit to be given, end of story.

 

[Beebo Brink]

Thunberg is easy to understand: she gives credit where credit is due in terms of battling climate change. The vast majority of politicians has just been beating around the bush since decades and therefore worsening her generations' future, so no credit to be given, end of story.

Could you please clarify "so no credit to be given"? It reads like you're dismissing Thunberg because all she does is meet a low bar that others have failed. But this may be a language translation issue.

 

[Bartholomew Gallacher]

In simpler terms: Thunberg honours people who are battling against climate change, and act accordingly. Since most politicians are just talking and have not done anything viable against it since decades though knowing better, and therefore worsening the future of her generation, she gives a shit about them, end of story. She values actions, but no titles or never realised promises.

So of course she was rightfully angry in the UN, being a modern incarnation of Cassandra.

 

[Kara Spengler]

Assuming for the moment that these people aren't just outright evil sociopaths (always a possibility), they have become so emotionally invested in climate denial that they are becoming unhinged by the rise of voices such as Greta Thunberg's. They're flailing to explain away her fervor, to see her as some unwitting pawn of her parents or of leftist zealots. When you think about it, that's a far less scarier scenario than the world burning around them, so they just continue to double-down.

Clearly these people have never met anyone in her generation. I just ask my sister what I can do to help my niece with her current political crusade and try to otherwise keep out of the way.

 

[Innula Zenovka]

The Misogyny of Climate Deniers

Why do right-wing men hate Greta Thunberg and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez so much? Researchers have some troubling answers to that question.

newrepublic.com

Green with rage: Women climate change leaders face online attacks

Understanding the sexist and misogynistic terrain women climate leaders must navigate is an important requirement of an informed electorate as Canada heads to the polls next month.

theconversation.com

 

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The Misogyny of Climate Deniers

Why do right-wing men hate Greta Thunberg and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez so much? Researchers have some troubling answers to that question.

newrepublic.com

Green with rage: Women climate change leaders face online attacks

Understanding the sexist and misogynistic terrain women climate leaders must navigate is an important requirement of an informed electorate as Canada heads to the polls next month.

theconversation.com

Being a woman with some visibility on any "progressive" subject matter leads to a flood of outrage online. The topic of climate change is nothing different there.

 

[Beebo Brink]

Inside the search for Africa’s carbon time bomb: a huge peatland

Journey into the wilds of the Congo rain forest with scientists trying to locate a shockingly large peatland so that they can help to preserve it.

www.nationalgeographic.com

 

[Beebo Brink]

Oceans and ice are absorbing the brunt of climate change