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The screen on that video alone is somewhat misleading: the technology exists, and works. The problem is that this approach scales badly in terms of power requirements and economic viability. This is why it is not real - not because it does not work, but because of its implications if we would install such plants all over the globe, as is correctly pointed out in the video.

There are studies around how many carbon suction plants we would need to build in order to mitigate climate change. It would be around 30,000 plants, meaning 3 for every coal based power plant on the planet. If the building of one Direct Air Capturing plant would be around 500 million US$, this means it would cost roughly around 15 trillion US$ to build this amount.

This is just building, not operations. For operations also power consumption would increase the costs of building this because tons of new electric power plants would be necessary, as well cost for chemical supplies to run these. And of course in the end we would need lots of space to store the captured CO2 permanently somewhere.

 

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The screen on that video alone is somewhat misleading: the technology exists, and works.
It's only misleading if you take it at its most literal meaning. And the video clearly explained that the technology exists, but the premise is badly flawed. Not only for all the reasons you outlined, but because you end up with MORE carbon in the air (or at very best carbon neutral) due to the energy demands.
 
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It's only misleading if you take it at its most literal meaning. And the video clearly explained that the technology exists, but the premise is badly flawed. Not only for all the reasons you outlined, but because you end up with MORE carbon in the air (or at very best carbon neutral) due to the energy demands.
To quote myself: "This is why it is not real - not because it does not work, but because of its implications if we would install such plants all over the globe, as is correctly pointed out in the video."
 

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So, it's full speed ahead into the wall.
Pretty much.
I've given up on the world avoiding catastrophe (for us). Too little, too late, money still makes everything go 'round as usual. The measures getting put into effect are more feel-good and oh so cautious more than anything, and the rich are stuffing themselves with more of their profits - after all, why shouldn't they? Those profits will make them be the ones best suited to avoid the climate outcomes, while the rest suffers.
 

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Pretty much.
I've given up on the world avoiding catastrophe (for us). Too little, too late, money still makes everything go 'round as usual. The measures getting put into effect are more feel-good and oh so cautious more than anything, and the rich are stuffing themselves with more of their profits - after all, why shouldn't they? Those profits will make them be the ones best suited to avoid the climate outcomes, while the rest suffers.
At this point I'm doing my best to approach it all as an anthropologist viewing the behavior of a curious creature.
 

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As the Great Salt Lake continues to shrink to unprecedented levels, a key component of its landscape and food web is missing.

The lake is known for thick, black clusters of brine flies by the billions, which pupate in its salty water then gather in dense mats to reproduce on shore. The insectile masses occasionally gross out beachgoers, but the bugs are harmless to humans. Crucially, they provide a nutrient-rich feast for millions of migrating birds. This year, however, the fly swarms are gone. And something’s off about the few bugs that remain.

Scientists say it’s a sign the lake’s ecological demise is here.
 

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Pretty much.
I've given up on the world avoiding catastrophe (for us). Too little, too late, money still makes everything go 'round as usual. The measures getting put into effect are more feel-good and oh so cautious more than anything, and the rich are stuffing themselves with more of their profits - after all, why shouldn't they? Those profits will make them be the ones best suited to avoid the climate outcomes, while the rest suffers.
They might have convinced themselves of that but that isn't how it's going to happen. Money isn't going to keep them safe. Nothing will.
 

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I heard about this. It's GREAT news but I'll hold my celebrations until it's commercially viable.... I suspect all those lasers and magnetic fields are expensive enough so that is still a long way off.
No in-deoth knowledge on how this works or how it's progressing, but I'm guessing that any fusion power for the next decade at least will be operating for seconds if not fractions of a second, and will run sporadically every few weeks or so at least at the start, and then maybe for seconds or low minutes.

We're having trouble enough storing solar and wind, how're we going to store terrawatts of fusion that are only available for a couple of seconds per month?
 
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