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[Innula Zenovka]

Actually it depends what you look at as some types of dna are matrilineal or patrilineal. It is also not hard to figure out whose is whose either. As close as you can get to all of her DNA was from Finland and most from my Dad's is from Denmark or the British Isles. So it is figuring out where that final bit came from.

As Sid suggested a bit earlier, though, there's been so much movement of people and populations in Europe over the last 1000 years that everyone's quite a mixture if you go back more than a couple of generations, and if you go back to Anglo-Saxon times, the Danes and others settled most of the north of England and also the island of Ireland.

 

[Kara Spengler]

As Sid suggested a bit earlier, though, there's been so much movement of people and populations in Europe over the last 1000 years that everyone's quite a mixture if you go back more than a couple of generations, and if you go back to Anglo-Saxon times, the Danes and others settled most of the north of England and also the island of Ireland.

Finns do not do that as much as other countries. Even when going elsewhere the norm is to have their own community. For example, my great grandfather came here but she was the first generation in his line to not marry a Finn. Which you can probably guess if normally being in the country you would have 93 pct of the markers and she has 100 pct. Finns are not social creatures, I went to an event at the Finnish embassy and both myself and the staff there all were praying to cell phone gods so we would not have to talk to people. It is a country that makes introverts from other places look like party animals.

 

[Innula Zenovka]

Many many years ago, I had a torrid affair with someone born in London with a Finnish mother and an Hungarian father (quite a combination), and had we had a child it would have had at least two great grandparents from County Clare alone.

 

[Aribeth Zelin]

Oh, yes, the joys of family tree tracing - where I found out that my paternal grandmother was her own first cousin on both sides, even though it didn't start looking -off- until her parents..... or that quite a few people on my dad's side are related on both his mom and dad's side [still say I'm related to anyone from PA at this point]...

I've even somehow got someone or several someones related to me on both my mom and dad's sides of the family, which is really weird, but if my cross comparisons are accurate.....

 

[Veritable Quandry]

My mother is very clear that our ancestors are Scottish, but her maiden name is originally Irish. From looking at various ancestry sites, in the 19th century they were spread out around a bunch of seaports in the UK and US.

 

[Innula Zenovka]

Evernote link because paywall

 

[Bartholomew Gallacher]

The English (or Anglo-Normans, at least) first conquered parts of Ireland in the late 12th century, and there's been a fair bit of movement between the island of Ireland and the British mainland (including England) ever since, with the result that many Brits (including me) have some Irish ancestors.

In fact so many that by Irish law roughly 10% of the UK's population is eligible for Irish citizenshop. Thats around 6.6 million people, and they saw a drastic rise in applications coming from the UK due to Brexit.

 

[Innula Zenovka]

Thousands of Britons living in EU told their UK bank accounts will be closed

Lloyds and Barclays among banks taking action due to lack of post-Brexit trade deal

www.theguardian.com

 

[Stora]

Thousands of Britons living in EU told their UK bank accounts will be closed

Lloyds and Barclays among banks taking action due to lack of post-Brexit trade deal

www.theguardian.com

The arrangement, known as “passporting”, expires at the end of the year and, while the UK has legislated so that EU banks can continue to provide services for customers in Britain, the EU has not done the same.

Is it so difficult for the EU to do the same ?

 

[Innula Zenovka]

Is it so difficult for the EU to do the same ?

No, but that has to be part of the trade deal, which has yet to be agreed, still less signed. No deal means British banks and financial services companies are no longer going to be able to conduct a lot of their European business from the UK on the same basis they have been doing, and while they've been able to move a lot of their operations from London to their EU offices, lower-value business like this probably isn't worth the bother.

I don't think it's as bad as it sounds -- if the banks can help their affected customers open a new account with a local bank where they now live, it shouldn't be too difficult to transfer funds, just that bit more expensive and inconvenient.

 

[Innula Zenovka]

Evernote link because paywall

 

[Innula Zenovka]

I would describe this as incredible incompetence and bad management, but it's all too easy to beleive.

'Cutting it tight': Dover port still awaiting Brexit infrastructure funds

Head of EU exit at the port says money needs to be ‘issued rather than talked about’

www.theguardian.com

 

[Innula Zenovka]

Not to my great surprise,

Internal market bill: No vote until days before no-deal Brexit

Ministers are to delay the final stages of controversial legislation to rip up parts of Boris Johnson’s withdrawal agreement until just days before a potential

www.thetimes.co.uk

Evernote link because paywall

Theatre, that's all it ever was.

 

[Sid]

I don't think this is been done because JP Morgan expects the UK economy to prosper in the near future because of Brexit.

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[Innula Zenovka]

I don't think this is been done because JP Morgan expects the UK economy to prosper in the near future because of Brexit.

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It's the same problem that's caused British banks to close accounts belonging to Brits resident in the EU, mentioned earlier in the thread -- because there's not yet a trade deal, banks and financial services companies are having to transfer all their European business from London to EU financial centres, since they don't know what to expect after January 1.

If and when a trade deal is signed, then it may well be that the move was unnecessary, but by that time it's happened, and the banks aren't going to move their assets back without good reason.

 

[detrius]

I don't think this is been done because JP Morgan expects the UK economy to prosper in the near future because of Brexit.

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Frankfurt:



ETA: Frankfurt has in the recent years reconstructed the historical city centre that had been destroyed in WW2.

Total vanity project - but I guess they have the money.

new old town

www.frankfurt-tourismus.de

 

[Sid]

Not to my great surprise,

Internal market bill: No vote until days before no-deal Brexit

Ministers are to delay the final stages of controversial legislation to rip up parts of Boris Johnson’s withdrawal agreement until just days before a potential

www.thetimes.co.uk

Evernote link because paywall

Theatre, that's all it ever was.

That and maybe the American reaction on this bill was unexpected.
I don't think the UK could economically handle a no agreement with both the EU and the USA.

 

[Innula Zenovka]

That and maybe the American reaction on this bill was unexpected.
I don't think the UK could economically handle a no agreement with both the EU and the USA.

If the government didn't expect that reaction, they were about the only people who didn't, to my mind, other than their fanatically pro-Brexit supporters.

To my mind, this bill is intended to demonstrate to those supporters that they really, really tried to have their unicorn cake and eat to, too, but the EU and the US won't let them, no matter how much Boris blusters and quotes Latin tags at people.

 

[Innula Zenovka]

Lorry drivers will face de facto Brexit border in Kent, Gove confirms

International hauliers will need ‘Kent access permit’ to get into county from 1 January

www.theguardian.com

The Road Haulage Association chief executive, Richard Burnett, said the industry “already knows” there will be queues in Kent as it had been pressing the government to take action for months.
He expressed fury that the government was trying to shift blame on to the industry.
“Mr Gove stresses that it’s essential that traders act now to get ready for new the formalities. We know for a fact that they are only too keen to be ready but how on earth can they prepare when there is still no clarity as to what they need to do?” said Burnett.

 

[Innula Zenovka]