Brexit.

[Innula Zenovka]

I like the way she just laughed when Tice (the current leader of UKIP, I think) refused to answer her question, and I wish more reporters would treat politicians the same way when they prevaricate like this.


A simple answer on the lines of "of course I think the tweet was disgusting but Leave.EU are no longer anything to do with me and I've had no involvement with them for over a year, so you should take it up with them, not me" would not have been difficult, after all.

 

[Da5id Weatherwax]

And the DUP shanks the Tories in the kidneys again.

Did anyone, anyone at all, who pays the slightest attention to UK politics not see this coming when May blundered into a "supply and confidence" deal with them?

 

[Sid]

The EU is confirming there is a deal.
/me walks to the supermarket across the street to buy some more popcorn.

A long day of ironing and BBC world news on the tv ahead.

 

[Daniel Voyager]

Will the DUP agree ? Will there be enough MPs to support it ?

 

[Daniel Voyager]

The EU is confirming there is a deal.
/me walks to the supermarket across the street to buy some more popcorn.

It's going to be one hell of a firework display on Saturday

 

[Daniel Voyager]

#EU negotiator Barnier - "Northern Ireland remains in the UK's customs territory"

 

[Sid]

Based on the first reactions I see from UK Parliamentarians on TV this deal will be dead in the water just like May's one.
It will be a roller coaster fortnight the rest of the month.

 

[Bartholomew Gallacher]

Will the DUP agree ? Will there be enough MPs to support it ?

Reactions I've heard so far:

Jeremy Cornyn, Labour: worse deal than Theresa Mays'. We will not agree.
DUP: We will not agree.
Well known Tory members who vote what DUP will vote: We will not agree.
Libdems: we will not agree.

Saturday is going to be interesting!

 

[Essence Lumin]

The full DUP statement is here.

 

[Daniel Voyager]

Boris could put to MPs on Saturday...vote for the new deal or no deal.

Boris doesn't want to extend past the 31st of October.

I wonder what will happen then with the remain parties if that was the vote choice (above) ?

 

[Sid]

My two pence:
While the EU bends backwards (again) to get out of this crises, the UK Parliamentarians mainly still continue chasing their personal unicorns.
The EU should decide and make clear during the upcoming summit, not to grand another extension except for getting this agreement legalized or to bring this new agreement to the people in a 'binding' referendum.
Otherwise it should be no deal by default or a revoke of A50 upcoming Halloween. Booo!

What is continuing to happen in the UK politics is far beyond 'to silly for words'.

 

[Daniel Voyager]

Nigel saying it's not brexit

 

[Argent Stonecutter]

And the DUP shanks the Tories in the kidneys again.

I think it's kind of mutual.

 

[Innula Zenovka]

Boris could put to MPs on Saturday...vote for the new deal or no deal.

Boris doesn't want to extend past the 31st of October.

I wonder what will happen then with the remain parties if that was the vote choice (above) ?

The result will almost certainly be that Parliament rejects the deal.

Then either, as Stephen Barclay, the current Brexit secretary confirmed yesterday, Johnson will write to the EU27 requesting an extension or some judges in Scotland will mostly likely do so on his behalf on Monday.

However, Johnson will also need an extension even if the House agrees to the Withdrawal Agreement, since there isn't enough time between Saturday and the end of the month to enact all the legislation necessary to put the WA into law, just as he will also need on if -- as seems highly likely -- the EU27 and European Parliament have not had time formally to accept the WA, too.

One way or another, an extension looks inevitable save for unforeseen and unwelcome circumstances.

 

[Daniel Voyager]

The result will almost certainly be that Parliament rejects the deal.

Then either, as Stephen Barclay, the current Brexit secretary confirmed yesterday, Johnson will write to the EU27 requesting an extension or some judges in Scotland will mostly likely do so on his behalf on Monday.

However, Johnson will also need an extension even if the House agrees to the Withdrawal Agreement, since there isn't enough time between Saturday and the end of the month to enact all the legislation necessary to put the WA into law, just as he will also need on if -- as seems highly likely -- the EU27 and European Parliament have not had time formally to accept the WA, too.

One way or another, an extension looks inevitable save for unforeseen and unwelcome circumstances.

There will be no extension from the sound of things.

 

[Essence Lumin]

There will be no extension from the sound of things.

The Guardian has some comments about Juncker's interview.

EU chief tries to pressure MPs to back deal - but member states will decide on extension

The claim was not repeated by any EU leaders. Donald Tusk, the European council president, confined himself to saying that “a deal is always better than a no-deal”. One senior EU official told the Guardian of Juncker’s intervention: “It is fake news.”

Juncker seeks to sell Brexit deal by 'ruling out' further delay

 

[Innula Zenovka]

There will be no extension from the sound of things.

And yet,

EU leaves door open to Brexit extension, in blow to Boris Johnson

Member states decline to follow Jean-Claude Juncker, who ‘ruled out’ further delay

www.theguardian.com

Johnson was helped by comments from Jean-Claude Juncker casting doubt on the possibility of a further Brexit delay, but the heads of state and government did not follow the European commission president’s lead.

A summit communique issued after two hours of discussion tasked the commission and European parliament with taking “the necessary steps to ensure that the agreement can enter into force on November 1”.

But a senior EU official said that the leaders would follow events on Saturday, and reflect on the next steps if they were in a “different situation”.

A second diplomatic source said they had chosen not to interfere in a “sensitive domestic debate … but they leave the door open to the possibility of an extension, to be discussed at a later stage – if required”.

Johnson is facing an uphill battle to build a majority after the Northern Irish Democratic Unionist party rejected the revised deal, describing it as driving “a coach and horses through the professed sanctity of the Belfast agreement”.

Juncker had tried to help sell the deal by pouring doubt on a further Brexit extension in the event of it being rejected.

He told reporters he was “ruling out” a prolongation, but the issue is solely the remit of the EU heads of state and government. “If we have a deal, we have a deal and there is no need for prolongation,” he added

No other EU leader expressed the same view. One senior EU official told the Guardian of Juncker’s intervention: “It is fake news.”

This thread by the BBC's Katya Adler analyses what Junker actually said, and suggests he was essentially trying to help Johnson get his deal over the line rather than ruling out any further extensions:

 

[Ariane]

Boris could put to MPs on Saturday...vote for the new deal or no deal.

Boris doesn't want to extend past the 31st of October.

I wonder what will happen then with the remain parties if that was the vote choice (above) ?

Easy, they would toss BoJo on his ass in a vote of no confidence, and they have the votes to do it.

 

[Ariane]

Not that I ever had a lot of respect for Theresa May, but...

 

[Wesleytron]