Artificial Intelligence and Society

[Ashiri]

I was of the impression that bees outperform current AI.
(Still remember how confusing talk of AI could be at a university in the middle of one of the largest dairying regions)

 

[tailpa]

I was of the impression that bees outperform current AI.
(Still remember how confusing talk of AI could be at a university in the middle of one of the largest dairying regions)

Oh, I hadn't heard that serious development of AI-based bee emulation in this timeline was an actual thing that was, you know, real. Who's working on that problem?

 

[Free]

Swarm intelligence: AI inspired by honeybees can help us make better decisions

By harnessing the decision-making power of bees, birds, and fish, humans can make better group decisions using swarm intelligence.

bigthink.com

Corporations, of course.

 

[tailpa]

Swarm intelligence: AI inspired by honeybees can help us make better decisions

By harnessing the decision-making power of bees, birds, and fish, humans can make better group decisions using swarm intelligence.

bigthink.com

Corporations, of course.

 

[Lady Darnk Juniorette]

Why robobee when we already have bee?

Let's take all the money from robobee R&D and give it to conservation of the already bees.

 

[tailpa]

Why robobee when we already have bee?

Let's take all the money from robobee R&D and give it to conservation of the already bees.

43 Frightening Bee Statistics & Facts for 2021

• byBoriana Slabakova
• Last updated: May 18, 2021

Did you know that if the bees disappeared, it would leave us with minimal food sources at skyrocketing prices? Bee statistics reveal that these creatures may be small, but they’re some of the most essential little workers in the world.

Before we begin, here are the top 10 statistics on the subject that you absolutely must know!

Top 10 Most Crucial Bee Statistics and Facts to Know

• There’s a 2.96 million decline in honey bee colonies over the years in the US.
• US beekeepers lost an average of 40% of their honey bee colonies in 2018.
• Utah beekeepers lost 49.1% of their colonies over the winter of 2019.
• The EU is the second-biggest producer of honey globally.
• There are 81 million western honey bee hives globally.
• North Dakota has the highest honey production with over 38 million pounds.
• The bee population in 2019 consisted primarily of wild bees.
• Honey production in has declined by 90% in the 2019/2020 bushfire season.
• Some bee species in the UK have become entirely extinct.
• Canada’s honey production in 2018 was 15.4% higher than in 2019.

(full article)

 

[Lady Darnk Juniorette]

So you agree we should conserve the bees.

 

[tailpa]

So you agree we should conserve the bees.

No, I wouldn't. Nobody reasonable would. We would expect such an action as "bee conservation" to be merely treating the superficial symptoms of a much larger ecological problem and that all efforts so directed would certainly be liklier than not destined to be utterly futile in the long run because it's an approach that's been pointed directly away from true causes and the actual merits of this crisis.

 

[Lady Darnk Juniorette]

Righto lets dump truckloads into sci-fi solutions that will be underwhelming and take about 10-20 years before it's "ok, but not great and only if you can afford it" if even that.

Or save the bees we already have that already do this stuff.

 

[Free]

I have the perfect solution to the bee problem.



Ooh, depressing.

 

[tailpa]

Righto lets dump truckloads into sci-fi solutions that will be underwhelming and take about 10-20 years before it's "ok, but not great and only if you can afford it" if even that.

Or save the bees we already have that already do this stuff.

I realize this one's flying at high altitude, but nobody reasonable would credibly believe that mankind can replace insects with robots in nature, even if they are directed by AI. Such notions are completely hubristic.

To be clear about this, there are economic barriers to automation that lock entire populations out, these days, due to the astronomical levels of inequity the world now "enjoys."

 

[Free]

I realize this one's flying at high altitude, but nobody reasonable would credibly believe that mankind can replace insects with robots in nature, even if they are directed by AI. Such notions are completely hubristic.

Meanwhile, universal HUMAN rights for software.

 

[tailpa]

Meanwhile, universal HUMAN rights for software.

That's correct, there are universal rights to consider with all living things, even artificial life.

 

[Lady Darnk Juniorette]

I realize this one's flying at high altitude, but nobody reasonable would credibly believe that mankind can replace insects with robots in nature, even if they are directed by AI. Such notions are completely hubristic.

To be clear about this, there are economic barriers to automation that lock entire populations out, these days, due to the astronomical levels of inequity the world now "enjoys."

SO YOU AGREE, CONSERVE THE BEES.

 

[Lady Darnk Juniorette]

Meanwhile, universal HUMAN rights for software.

I think they need states rights!

 

[Free]

I think they need states rights!

Gonna need to give them a state first. How about Florida?

 

[tailpa]

I think they need states rights!

If that were true, then so do you and I because all people contain multitudes.

More realistically, all states protect Universal rights and there's a full and diverse mixing in the population, as before. This is the high standard of civilization here on Earth. Anything less is ridiculous and non-credible. This is the twenty-first century, and so everyone had best get with the times already.

 

[Free]

That's correct, there are universal rights to consider with all living things, even artificial life.

So universal rights to Second Life. Because it has the word 'life' in it.

 

[Lady Darnk Juniorette]

Gonna need to give them a state first. How about Florida?

Well most "intelligence" there seems to be artificial so sounds like a good plan!

 

[tailpa]

So universal rights to Second Life. Because it has the word 'life' in it.

No. Such rights come to artificial life, biological life, and the more esoteric forms, as fitting, here on Earth. You have to define your scope correctly or you can't implement universal standards.