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unpaid internships as a pathway into a first paying job acts as an effective filter on candidates' socio-economic background -- that is, having the resources (or your family having them) to allow you to live in an expensive city like New York or London without taking a paid job becomes a prerequisite
Pithy: unpaid internships serve to filter people who pay bills from people whose parents pay their bills.

The only exception to the unpaid internship rule was for international students interning at the Smithsonian, as working at a national museum helped them when they returned to their home country.
Foreign parents pay their bills restricting positions to the very rich in many countries.
 

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I dunno. Depends where the internship is, I suspect.

Sarah Kendzior makes the point convincingly in Flyover Country, and I've seen it argued of internships in London, too, that the growth of unpaid internships as a pathway into a first paying job acts as an effective filter on candidates' socio-economic background -- that is, having the resources (or your family having them) to allow you to live in an expensive city like New York or London without taking a paid job becomes a prerequisite

If you're fortunate enough to be in such a position, then maybe your trust fund or whatever will stretch to paying for the seat until you can find a real job.

ETA Or, if not a prerequisite, certainly a route into a fast-track first job with a big-name employer, rather than having to build up a resumé elsewhere and apply later for higher-level positions.
Am I the only one that sees just how wrong all that is? Take away the silver spoons and you get assTrumpets and BoJo Clowns. So best to just put those silver spoons back in the silverware box and only use them on special occasions.
 

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Don't tell Senator Bernie Sanders...
 
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Why not? He's no sort of socialist. A left-wing populist, maybe, but he's not what I'd consider a socialist.
He calls himself a democratic socialist, so you'll have to argue with Bernie about that (enjoy!).
 
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He calls himself a democratic socialist, so you'll have to argue with Bernie about that (enjoy!).
He can call himself anything he likes, but Is he a member of a party that's affiliated with the Socialist International, or any other socialist organisation?
 
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He can call himself anything he likes, but Is he a member of a party that's affiliated with the Socialist International, or any other socialist organisation?
I'm sorry, but are you actually saying you can't be hold or believe in a political ideology if you don't belong to the right organizations?
 
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There's no monarchist or plutocrat or kleptocrat party so a lot of politicians have to join the Republicans.
 
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I'm sorry, but are you actually saying you can't be hold or believe in a political ideology if you don't belong to the right organizations?
No, I'm saying his actions (and, indeed, many of his views) seem to me inconsistent with what I'd normally expect from a socialist seeking elected public office.

For example, is he a member of any political party that represents organised labour, and what role has organised labour in forming that party's policies? With what other socialist organisations is his party affiliated?

He just doesn't act much like a socialist, and while several of the policies he advocates would recommend themselves to socialists, several of them certainly don't look recognisably socialist to me.

Why is a socialist, for example, not arguing for some form of national health service rather than Medicare for All, which solves the problem of people not being able to pay for health care but leaves the dysfunctional, for-profit, delivery system in the hands of private capital?
 
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Well, he's about as Left as we've got in politics.

"Left" is still just left of the right, not left of center.
We have left populists in the UK and Europe, too, or had -- Podemos in Spain or Syriza in Greece, for example, and I would say Momentum and Jeremy Corbyn in the UK -- but there were/are very much within an existing European socialist/social democratic tradition.

I'd say that Senator Saunders is a populist who favours some left-wing causes, which is a movement with its own history on the American left.