Cadet Bonespurs starts a war with Iran

[Romana]

Rump really wants to antagonize the rest of the world, doesn't he? Except for Russia, of course.

 

[Aribeth Zelin]

Rump really wants to antagonize the rest of the world, doesn't he? Except for Russia, of course.

And the Saudis, and N.Korea, and Turkey.....

 

[Katheryne Helendale]

Rump really wants to antagonize the rest of the world, doesn't he? Except for Russia, of course.

Because 'MURICA!!!

 

[Isabeau]

Sources cited are in the thread (Iranian tv)

 

[Dakota Tebaldi]

Yep

 

[Kara Spengler]

Sources cited are in the thread (Iranian tv)

As expected many of those sources are in Farsi but I am guessing enough people have translated the original statements by now.

Interesting. Odds are either the US or Iran had done it (probably on accident) but this is the first time both sides have agreed on what happened. Now to see what the US does.

 

[Tirellia]

And now all the people who claimed Iran was the grown up in the room can go and eat their feet.

 

[Innula Zenovka]

And now all the people who claimed Iran was the grown up in the room can go and eat their feet.

I don't see that.

Iran have admitted responsibility and say it was a dreadful mistake by their military.

Human error, often resulting in catastrophic loss of life, is not unheard of during military conflicts -- even the US Military has been known to be responsible for "friendly fire" incidents, I believe.

 

[Bartholomew Gallacher]

 

[Sid]

And now all the people who claimed Iran was the grown up in the room can go and eat their feet.

Compare the way Iran handles this mistake with the Russians and the Malaysian plane they shot down over the Ukraine with a missile a few years ago. The evidence in that case is overwhelming. But they still play Shaggy's "Wasn't me" over and over again.

So yes, Iran handles the tragedy as a grown up. They admit their military has blundered big time.

 

[Ishina]

And now all the people who claimed Iran was the grown up in the room can go and eat their feet.

Shit like this is a direct, predictable and desired result of the actions of the USA and its rogue president.

 

[Jolene Benoir]

And now all the people who claimed Iran was the grown up in the room can go and eat their feet.

Yeah? Ask yourself if Trump would EVER admit to any mistakes or would rather cover it up.

 

[Isabeau]

The blame can be shared in this case, no? It isn't a competition. Leaders with access to weapons playing war games and not caring about collateral damage.

With the US though, the way they demand their own way instead of negotiate and break promises when they do, waving their "huge" arsenal around while demanding other countries reduce theirs, treating allies with disrespect and disdain (unless they need their help) I can understand why the US is receiving so much share of the blame.

They like to claim to be the "leader of the free world" (as much of the US media likes to call the president and country), then they should take the criticism with humility, accept their part in this tragedy, and apologize.

I'm sorry if I sound harsh in a mostly American forum, but Trump isn't the first to act this way. And the "bigger" you are (military), and the "better" you claim to be (democracy freedom liberty and all those fancy words), the more others expect from you.

 

[Soen Eber]

And now all the people who claimed Iran was the grown up in the room can go and eat their feet.

Iran Air Flight 655 - Wikipedia

On radar, a 737 looks a lot like a B52 which looks like a lot like a Boeing E-4 AACP (Advanced Airborn Command Post) which looks a lot like an AC-130 gunship which looks a lot like an A-10 Ground attack aircraft. The 2nd is based on commercial airframe, the 3rd is based on a military transport airframe which is still used in the 3rd world as a passenger aircraft, and the 3rd & forth operate at the same altitude and speed as a commercial jet on takeoff/landing approach.

On the day before, Fox’s Sean Hannity opens his show saying of Iran: “They’re gonna get hit hard.” “Their three major refineries could soon go up in flames.” “We can report six B-52 bombers are on their way to the region.”

 

[Ishina]

The blame can be shared in this case, no? It isn't a competition. Leaders with access to weapons playing war games and not caring about collateral damage.

No. Not until Iran or Iraq are occupying US territory, building military bases and airports, seizing its natural resources, strangling its economy, arming American militias against the state, assassinating members of the US government, and terrorising American civilians with drones and 30 million dollar death helicopters. Then the blame for the collateral damage can be shared.

 

[Eunoli]

Blame doesn't have to be shared for it to be reasonable. The airport was left open after Iran fired the missiles. It would be a simple, logical thing not to have planes in local airspace at that time. They are to blame for those deaths. Its not about taking responsibility, its about the negligence that caused it.

That doesn't mean that Trump isn't also to blame for having started the cycle of violence in the first place.

 

[Soen Eber]

That doesn't mean that Trump isn't also to blame for having started the cycle of violence in the first place.

Let's not forget Iran's militias are terrorizing the rest of the Iraqi population, and that the Iranian general which was assasinated has a lot of blood on his hands, both American and Iraqi.

 

[Sid]

The US is to blame for risking the world peace by murdering the Iranian General.
IMHO America is not to blame for the unfortunate action taken by the Iranian military by launching that missile against a civilian airplane.

 

[Ishina]

Iran didn't spontaneously decide to start shooting missiles at civilian aircraft. There is a sequence of events here and America is morally and causatively involved every step of the way.

 

[Eunoli]

Iran didn't spontaneously decide to start shooting missiles at civilian aircraft. There is a sequence of events here and America is morally and causatively involved every step of the way.

Absolutely. But, that doesn't negate the negligence here. They should have shut the airport.