The Israeli Goverment Has Become The Monster

[Innula Zenovka]

This, I think, is free to read.
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To my mind the writer, a British centre-left opponent of Netanyahu and his government, makes a serious point -- parts of the British and US left cannot bring themselves to dissociate themselves from the most appalling regimes so long as they're anti-Zionist, and similarly, no matter how much they say they're anti-Zionist and not antisemitic, cannot bring themselves to define what they would consider antisemitic.

The far left cannot abandon antisemitism

It would rather embrace Iranian reactionaries

nickcohen.substack.com

 

[Innula Zenovka]

The Coming Conservative Turn Against Israel Goes Much Deeper Than You Realize

It’s not just about politics. It’s also about theology. And it’s going to have a massive impact on Zionism, U.S. foreign policy — and even the place of Jews in America.

www.notus.org

Young US Evangelicals are apparently abandoning "end times theology" and its associated support for Israel, and becoming increasingly anti-zionist in their beliefs, if not downright antisemitic.

That disillusionment with Israel could well divide Republicans in 2026 and 2028 the way Israel and the war in Gaza have already divided Democrats. But the likely consequences go beyond internal party politics. In combination with the attitudes of young Democrats, it may signal the beginning of the end for America’s special relationship with Israel — a scenario that could transform the geopolitics of the Middle East, alter the lives of American Jews and, for the first time in many generations, leave Israel to fend for itself.

 

[Innula Zenovka]

You Do Not Have To Hand It To Tucker Carlson

The antisemitic Nazi is not a pro-Palestinian ally

www.everythingishorrible.net

 

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You Do Not Have To Hand It To Tucker Carlson

The antisemitic Nazi is not a pro-Palestinian ally

www.everythingishorrible.net

I promise, I won't.

 

[Innula Zenovka]

I promise, I won't.

Seems that some people on BlueSky did. Some parts of the left really do have this weird blind spot, in that they're prepared to line up with anyone, no matter how fascistic, who opposes Israel. This recent article describes how leaders of the Green Party in the UK are happily doing interviews on an Islamo-Fascist site.

The Greens, the Islamists, the Jews and the Nazis

Antisemitism can still wreck the left

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I understand why people are outraged by the destruction of Gaza. But to go from outrage to open endorsement of a clerical fascist site is a huge betrayal by a party that claims to be this country’s best defender against racists.

For once the F-word is not hyperbole. It is not just that, if Islamists were white, progressives would have no problem in describing their ideology as fascistic. That’s what they say about Christian nationalists who assert the God-given power to deny women’s , LGBT+ rights, and human rights, after all.

The 5Pillars site is so lost in conspiracism it hosts white supremacists and neo-fascists: the former leader of the BNP, Nick Griffin, the leader of the rival Patriotic Alternative, Mark Collett, and the former Britain First deputy leader Jayda Fransen.

IIn a truly multicultural moment, the site celebrates diversity by bringing together the extreme right without regard to race or religion.

 

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[Cristiano]

 

[Mona Eberhardt]

Don't you know it's "antisemitic" to be anti-Zionist, i.e. against the idea of an ethnotheocracy that we must support with all our strength and might, no matter what?

 

[Mona Eberhardt]

Nonononononononononono. It's called an invasion only when the Russians do it. If it's Israel, it's self-defense and to claim otherwise is "antisemitic" - Nick Cohen, the "centre-left" (ROFLMFAO) said so. So do all of Keir Stürmer's groupies.

 

[Cristiano]

Don't you know it's "antisemitic" to be anti-Zionist, i.e. against the idea of an ethnotheocracy that we must support with all our strength and might, no matter what?

This is my exact thoughts on this. The idea that there are "chosen people" is magical thinking bullshit. A religious ethnostate is just religious racial supremacy in whatever form. Israel has no right to grab land from other countries.

 

[Mona Eberhardt]

In private calls to local leaders across southern Lebanon, Israeli military officials have assured several Christian and Druse communities that they could remain in the evacuation zone. They have pressed them, however, to force out any Lebanese from neighboring Shiite Muslim communities who have sought refuge among them as Israeli bombardments flatten Shiite towns, according to local Christian, Druse and Shiite leaders who spoke to The New York Times. The Shiites make up the majority of southern Lebanon.

Source: The "far left", "woke", "antisemitic", and "islamist" New York Times.

If it walks like a goose, honks like a goose, and swims like a goose, then it is obviously "antisemitic" to oppose its apartheid laws and policies, criticise it, and demand accountability and sanctions. As every snitch of the Canary Mission, the UKLFI, AIPAC, and other fine institutions will tell us.

 

[Cristiano]

Fuck the IDF and fuck Netanyahu. Israel is a terror state.

 

[GoblinCampFollower]

Fuck the IDF and fuck Netanyahu. Israel is a terror state.

This "IDF Soldier's" performance is so over the top I can't help but be very suspicious if this is real. I know some fanatics in Israel don't give a fuck about dead civilians, but his deadpan expression and simple, flat statements come off as a bad edit.

 

[Cristiano]

This "IDF Soldier's" performance is so over the top I can't help but be very suspicious if this is real. I know some fanatics in Israel don't give a fuck about dead civilians, but his deadpan expression and simple, flat statements come off as a bad edit.

If this were a one off example I would agree with you but there are many instances of brutal IDF behavior and even how settlers are behaving that make me stand behind my statement

 

[Cristiano]

 

[Mona Eberhardt]

This "IDF Soldier's" performance is so over the top I can't help but be very suspicious if this is real. I know some fanatics in Israel don't give a fuck about dead civilians, but his deadpan expression and simple, flat statements come off as a bad edit.

ORLY?

How about this interview of Tomer Capone (Frenchie from The Boys) from 2016, in which he matter-of-factly and without any kind of remorse described atrocities he committed against Palestinians while he served in the Israely "Army"?

Oh, and what exactly did this fine actor mean by "tear her apart," eh?

But hey, Keir Stürmer's groupies (who had ZERO problem with the UKLFI censoring every acknowledgment of Palestinian suffering in Britain, who had ZERO problem with the fraudster and stolen land peddler behind the "Campaign Against Antisemitism" extremist organization that led the smear campaign against Jeremy Corbyn and Roger Waters) will tell us it's "antisemitic" and "islamist" or "jihadist" or whatever to denounce these criminals and demand justice and accountability.

 

[Innula Zenovka]

If this were a one off example I would agree with you but there are many instances of brutal IDF behavior and even how settlers are behaving that make me stand behind my statement

It rang some alarm bells for me, too. I mean, we aren't given any info about where or when he served in the IDF. This can't be because he's worried about repercussions from the Israeli military or government, or he wouldn't have given an interview direct to camera, without his voice being disguised.

Nor are we told how he came to be interviewed by homopoliticus.news, a channel that seems mostly to curate material from Piers Morgan, rather than an outlet like Al Jazeera, who I imagine would be interested in what he had to say.

As it is, all we have is someone wearing camo, looking vaguely Middle-Eastern and with an accent (though if he'd said he was Turkish, Kurdish, Iranian, Syrian or Afghan, rather than Israeli, I'd have no way of knowing whether he was or not) happily confessing to any number of war crimes.

 

[Innula Zenovka]

But hey, Keir Stürmer's groupies will tell us it's "antisemitic" and "islamist" or "jihadist" or whatever to denounce these criminals and demand justice and accountability.

Strangely, though, a lot of people seem to find it difficult to denounce these criminals and to demand justice and accountability without also being antisemitic and expressing support for ethno-religious fascists who are every bit as bad as Netanyahu.

 

[Mona Eberhardt]

Strangely, though, a lot of people seem to find it difficult to denounce these criminals and to demand justice and accountability without also being antisemitic and expressing support for ethno-religious fascists who are every bit as bad as Netanyahu.

Whataboutism. I'm not going to dignify it.

 

[GoblinCampFollower]

It rang some alarm bells for me, too. I mean, we aren't given any info about where or when he served in the IDF. This can't be because he's worried about repercussions from the Israeli military or government, or he wouldn't have given an interview direct to camera, without his voice being disguised.

Nor are we told how he came to be interviewed by homopoliticus.news, a channel that seems mostly to curate material from Piers Morgan, rather than an outlet like Al Jazeera, who I imagine would be interested in what he had to say.

As it is, all we have is someone wearing camo, looking vaguely Middle-Eastern and with an accent (though if he'd said he was Turkish, Kurdish, Iranian, Syrian or Afghan, rather than Israeli, I'd have no way of knowing whether he was or not) happily confessing to any number of war crimes.

Yeah, I am 100% convinced Israel is committing atrocities on a massive scale, but that doesn't mean that every piece of war propaganda should be taken at face value. That interview was a bit fishy. I have no interest in defending the IDF, but everything said from either side should be scrutinized.