The Israeli Goverment Has Become The Monster

[Innula Zenovka]

Whataboutism. I'm not going to dignify it.

No. I'm just saying that a lot of people seem to find it difficult to denounce these criminals and to demand justice and accountability without also being antisemitic and without (completely unnecessarily) at the same time expressing support for different flavours of ethno-religious fascists.

Similarly, a lot of people who take great exception to being called antisemitic find it very difficult to say what kind of criticism of Israel they would actually consider antisemitic. Would you agree that some of Tucker Carlson's criticism of Israel is antisemitic, or that of Candace Owens, Alex Jones or Marjorie Taylor Greene?

 

[Cristiano]

 

[Ellie]

Acknowledging the risks of reprisals against Netenyahu's brutal policy, targeting innocent Jewish persons throughout the world explained here
by Mandy Patinkin and his wife.

Although it's a valid and pressing concern, it begs the question are hundreds of Jewish persons being slaughtered every day?

No? Muslims are, and to widely raise anti-semitism each and every time another atrocity is reported looks increasingly and suspiciously like an attempt to distract from these murders.

Any reaction less than absolute horror, also the proper response to The Holocaust, suggests a problematic view of Muslims, a stance carefully cultivated and fuelled, long before Netenyahu's father expressed his racist opinions in an interview from 2012. And yes, I once did describe this man as a terrorist, and should have said he engages in stochastic terrorism.

The Bible finds no worse image than that of the man from the desert. And why? Because he has no respect for any law. Because in the desert he can do as he pleases. The tendency toward conflict is in the essence of the Arab. He is an enemy by essence. His personality won’t allow him any compromise or agreement. It doesn’t matter what kind of resistance he will meet, what price he will pay. His existence is one of perpetual war.

https://www.972mag.com/the-late-benzion-netanyahus-appalling-views-on-arabs/

 

[Isabeau]

Let’s just say the video is fake.

It isn’t that hard to believe that humans are capable of horrendous acts. Remember the US military during the Iraq war, and how prisoners were treated.

Besides propaganda, what exactly would you have them use to fight or protect themselves from US($) and Israel at the moment?

Honestly, there’s a slaughter going on.

Of course you can find antisemitism in any group. So? Does every discussion on this mass killing and population displacement have to include an * about how we shouldn’t forget antisemitism still exists?

Well, let me speak for a whole swath of “people” and say, Yes, many are antisemite. There, it has been said.

 

[Cristiano]

“Anti-Semitic” is so often used as a way to shut down dissent that it is losing its meaning.

 

[Mona Eberhardt]

But I guess this is not a terrorist attack, and that denouncing genocide is "antisemitic"...

Arson attack on gallery with clear stand against the Gaza genocide

An arson attack on a gallery in the historical district Psirri of downtown Athens took place in the early morning hours of Easter Sunday.

www.keeptalkinggreece.com

 

[Mona Eberhardt]

Gang rape of female Palestinian hostage in Israeli prison. Not the only one, mind you. It's standard policy. And now they have the "fast-track death penalty without appeal for Palestinians only," but it's "antisemitic" to denounce them. And Keir Stürmer keeps supporting them, since he and his cronies are raking in the donations from the Israeli lobby.

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/i-wished-death-sexual-violence-israels-prisons-organised-state-policy?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=Social_Traffic&utm_content=ap_g7xxrey6yz

 

[Bartholomew Gallacher]

German chancellor Friedrich Merz recently expressed his concerns about the continuation of illegal settlements in the West Bank.

Almost immediately Merz got criticised by Israel's secretary of finance, Bezalel Smotrich on Twitter: "On the eve of Holocaust Remembrance Day [on Tuesday], the German Chancellor should bow his head and apologize a thousand times on behalf of Germany, rather than daring to preach morality to us on how to conduct ourselves against the Nazis of our generation. Mr Chancellor, the days when Germans dictated to Jews where they were permitted or forbidden to live are over and shall not return. You will not force us into ghettos again, certainly not in our own land."

So typical blah blah shut the fuck up we do know what we are doing is wrong but shut up strategy from Israel.

Here now comes the plot twist: the ambassador of Israel in Germany, Ron Prosor, sides with Merz saying Smotrich’s attack “erodes the memory of the Holocaust and presents it in a completely distorted way”.

“It is possible and completely legitimate to argue with the Germans, especially on this day, which is very emotional,” Prosor told Kan public radio.

“There is a political debate all the time, but Merz is a great friend of Israel,” he added. “Many things that Germany does are unacceptable to us, and things that we do are unacceptable to them. But Germany has proven, especially with all the criticism against Israel in Europe, that it is our number one friend.”

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/apr/14/israeli-ambassador-germany-condemns-bezalel-smotrich-chancellor-friedrich-merz-nazi-regime

 

[Mona Eberhardt]

Merz and Scholz have done their worst to crnsir every criticism of Israel in Germany, by getting people fired, arrested, cancelled - even Jews. Plot twist: Germany's "antisemitism tsar", who oversees all this suppression, isn't even Jewish, and about half of his targets are Jews.

 

[Cristiano]

The rest of the text is:


Not by being ignored. Not by being argued with. But by being applied to a photograph.

When you call a real image of real violence "antisemitism," you have not defended yourself. You have defined yourself.

 

[GoblinCampFollower]

Any reaction less than absolute horror, also the proper response to The Holocaust, suggests a problematic view of Muslims...

I agree. A large number of Americans are still openly bigoted against Muslims and feel very entitled to be because of 9/11. Much has been said about Israeli disinformation trying to leverage the Holocaust but I think 9/11 is much of what protects their support in the USA. It's malice against Muslims more so than a genuine support of Israel. Of course, the fact that some congress people think they have to support Israel because of weird doomsday prophecies is another thing too.

 

[Bartholomew Gallacher]

No, some representatives do fear AIPAC, which has shown what it is capable of just last year.

 

[GoblinCampFollower]

No, some representatives do fear AIPAC, which has shown what it is capable of just last year.

Yeah, I'm aware of that. But most common citizens don't fear AIPAC. I was just saying, all of the conservatives I know are still OPENLY bigoted against Muslims which makes it really hard to convince them Israel has overstepped any reasonable bounds.

 

[Cristiano]

 

[Cristiano]

This is absolute madness.

 

[Cristiano]

NYT Finds 'Disproportionate Role' of Israelis in World Organ Trafficking

 

[Cristiano]

Here we go:

No, you googly eyed piece of shit - we need to prioritize America. We are not beholden to Israel, no matter how much money you take from them. They can fend for themselves. They certainly have no problem attacking everyone and just take and take from us. What kind of ally is that?

 

[Mona Eberhardt]

NYT Finds 'Disproportionate Role' of Israelis in World Organ Trafficking

Ah, so the Palestinians weren't lying when they were reporting organ and tissue theft by Israel from dead Palestinians' bodies. But I suppose it's "antisemitic" to call Israel out for this. Reminds me of some other monsters; you know, the ones who not only installed entire death factories to murder millions of people, but also harvested them for their hair (which they used to make socks for their soldiers) and skins (which some of them used to make lampshades for their homes). But oh, I'm running afoul of the IHRA definition.

 

[Free]

No, you googly eyed piece of shit

You're upsetting our emoji!

 

[Cristiano]

Again, the label has no meaning anymore.