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This scene is pretty representative of the show as a whole. (I love the moment Mensah realizes Murderbot is singing the theme song...)

 
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I just ordered a Kindle version for $2. You can *read* the story for free, but I'm guessing you can't download it. I want it on my Kindle, tyvm.
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I wouldn't mind reading it on the website, but I'm sick: I need the whole collection on my Kindle.
 
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I have not read the books yet, but I loved the series and am looking forward to another season.
 
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I have not read the books yet, but I loved the series and am looking forward to another season.
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The TV series is a pretty damn good dramatization of the books, which is to say they made changes that were suitable for a different medium. The first time I watched the series, I was distracted by constantly cataloging how the TV version differed from the books. I'm halfway through a second viewing and enjoying it even more now that I can just focus on the show for what it is.

With the exception of Mensah, the PresAux team in the books are barely sketched in; the books are entirely Murderbot's (absolutely delightful) internal monologue and he's uninterested in the superficial details of humans. The TV series did a wonderful job of developing those characters more deeply, especially Gurathin, and presenting the story from a more balanced narrative perspective.

I'm really looking forward to second season because the next book in the series introduces a new major character in Murderbot's life.
 
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Just watched the last two episodes. At the end of episode 9 (“My clients are the best clients.”) I had tears in my eyes even though I knew it couldn’t possibly be the end.

Really strong ending. I can’t wait for season 2.
 
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Skarsgard said in an interview since they had no idea if there would be another season he needed a lot of takes on the last scene with Gurathan because he kept crying.
 
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A piece up on the NYT with the creators of the show.

Was Murderbot Smiling in the Finale? Only the Creators Know for Sure. (archive.today)
On the surface, Chris and Paul Weitz were in unfamiliar territory when they set about creating “Murderbot,” the darkly comic Apple TV+ series, which just wrapped its first season on Friday. After all, they hadn’t adapted a science-fiction story together before.

But as the Weitz brothers noted in a joint video call last month, the cynical, soap-opera-obsessed cyborg at that show’s center (Alexander Skarsgard) isn’t entirely dissimilar from the carefree, selfish cad played by Hugh Grant in their 2002 film “About a Boy,” which they directed and co-wrote (with Peter Hedges).

Like that man, the cyborg of “Murderbot” is inconvenienced by some of the messier aspects of human existence — particularly emotions. And like him, it must learn to resemble a responsible, loving human being.
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“Hugh Grant’s character was essentially self-medicating with television and didn’t really want to deal with people, and was kind of forced to by a hippie mom and her son,” Chris said.
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Possible second season spoilers (based on the books).

The showrunners did a good job of shifting the show away from Murderbot's internal monologue as the predominate narrative method, so I'm optimistic that they'll find an equally persuasive way of portraying ART. In the books it's a "looming presence" which is easily enough described in words, but not so easily visualized.

I'm trying to be optimistic about how they'll deal with ART's gender, but that is a tricky dynamic, and I really wonder if there's any good solution for that. A woman's voice would support a stereo-typic male/female romance dynamic, and no matter how many times they say that neither Murderbot nor ART have genitals, the human viewers do have genitals, and they are going to inevitably catalog the relationship as a straight romance. A man's voice, on the other hand, just flips the category to homosexual.

My preference for the show would be for a gender-ambiguous voice. That would serve as at least a token counterbalance to the male-presenting Murderbot. I would welcome anything that re-emphasizes that constructs have no gender.

Ironically, my own personal vision of ART is of a slightly masculine-leaning personality, rather than strictly neutral. But I've always seen that as due to the limit of my imagination from living in such a binary world.
 
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Beebo Brink said:
Possible second season spoilers (based on the books).

The showrunners did a good job of shifting the show away from Murderbot's internal monologue as the predominate narrative method, so I'm optimistic that they'll find an equally persuasive way of portraying ART. In the books it's a "looming presence" which is easily enough described in words, but not so easily visualized.

I'm trying to be optimistic about how they'll deal with ART's gender, but that is a tricky dynamic, and I really wonder if there's any good solution for that. A woman's voice would support a stereo-typic male/female romance dynamic, and no matter how many times they say that neither Murderbot nor ART have genitals, the human viewers do have genitals, and they are going to inevitably catalog the relationship as a straight romance. A man's voice, on the other hand, just flips the category to homosexual.

My preference for the show would be for a gender-ambiguous voice. That would serve as at least a token counterbalance to the male-presenting Murderbot. I would welcome anything that re-emphasizes that constructs have no gender.

Ironically, my own personal vision of ART is of a slightly masculine-leaning personality, rather than strictly neutral. But I've always seen that as due to the limit of my imagination from living in such a binary world.
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There's a contingent of fans of the audio books who are hoping Kevin R. Free gets to voice ART in the show. I've only heard a few samples of his readings, so I don't have much of an opinion either way.
 
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Beebo Brink said:
Possible second season spoilers (based on the books).

The showrunners did a good job of shifting the show away from Murderbot's internal monologue as the predominate narrative method, so I'm optimistic that they'll find an equally persuasive way of portraying ART. In the books it's a "looming presence" which is easily enough described in words, but not so easily visualized.

I'm trying to be optimistic about how they'll deal with ART's gender, but that is a tricky dynamic, and I really wonder if there's any good solution for that. A woman's voice would support a stereo-typic male/female romance dynamic, and no matter how many times they say that neither Murderbot nor ART have genitals, the human viewers do have genitals, and they are going to inevitably catalog the relationship as a straight romance. A man's voice, on the other hand, just flips the category to homosexual.

My preference for the show would be for a gender-ambiguous voice. That would serve as at least a token counterbalance to the male-presenting Murderbot. I would welcome anything that re-emphasizes that constructs have no gender.

Ironically, my own personal vision of ART is of a slightly masculine-leaning personality, rather than strictly neutral. But I've always seen that as due to the limit of my imagination from living in such a binary world.
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I also “heard” ART’s voice as leaning masculine, and Murderbot as also masculine leaning (my own bias in this case as I’m slightly infatuated with Sec-unit. ☺
 
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