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[Argent Stonecutter]

Several years ago my wife decided we could afford the "cheap" Tesla and asked me if I wanted one, like, as a birthday present I was going to spend five years paying off or something.

I said "hell no". The build quality issues were already notorious in certain circles.

Plus... I kind of like the idea of an electric car but I'll wait until they're priced like regular econoboxes.

 

[Noodles]

Plus... I kind of like the idea of an electric car but I'll wait until they're priced like regular econoboxes.

Thenother part is remebering that you will need a place to charge it at home.

 

[WolfEyes]

Thenother part is remebering that you will need a place to charge it at home.

That's the deal killer for us. Unless the mobile home park is willing to pay for 300+ outlets/charging stations to be installed. Like that is ever going to happen. lol

Apartment complexes face the same problem.

 

[Khamon]

Us as well, we park on the street, so no outlet for us.

 

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[Noodles]

That's the deal killer for us. Unless the mobile home park is willing to pay for 300+ outlets/charging stations to be installed. Like that is ever going to happen. lol

Apartment complexes face the same problem.

I think even a lot of homes do. Like up in Chicago, plenty of people with houses but they park in the street because no garages and the houses are basically on top of each other.

 

[Argent Stonecutter]

Thenother part is remebering that you will need a place to charge it at home.

OMG, I'll have to clear out the other side of my garage.

 

[Dakota Tebaldi]

Yeah I live in an apartment, so a home charging station isn't really ever going to be a thing for me.

Public fast-charging stations are nice but there needs to be a LOT more of them, if owning an electric without a home charger is ever going to be practical.

 

[Essence Lumin]

Yeah I live in an apartment, so a home charging station isn't really ever going to be a thing for me.

Public fast-charging stations are nice but there needs to be a LOT more of them, if owning an electric without a home charger is ever going to be practical.

A quick search indicates 120 is way too slow, 240 may be good for overnight charging and DC fast charging stations the best. I've lived in a ton of apartments but never had 240 volts to a plug. The 120 wouldn't even work without a very long extension cable snaking past other people's apartments. On the other hand, in my apartment decades I never had a car either.

 

[Dakota Tebaldi]

My apartment does have a 240 outlet for the dryer and might have one for the oven, but - well, they're used for the dryer and the oven, there's no free 240 outlets just hanging out somewhere obvs.

 

[Veritable Quandry]

I have some old cloth wrapped knob and post wire running to the garage which is small for my MG. I rent the only garage for the duplex we are in. We looked at plug-in hybrids, but even there it would require our slumlord to run new power to the detached garage.

 

[Veritable Quandry]

My apartment does have a 240 outlet for the dryer and might have one for the oven, but - well, they're used for the dryer and the oven, there's no free 240 outlets just hanging out somewhere obvs.

Y-cable to the oven outlet hung out the back window. Problem solved.

You'll have new problems, but that one's solved.

 

[Dakota Tebaldi]

I am definitely not brave enough to use some kind of multi-plug or extension cable on a 240 outlet...

 

[Soen Eber]

Y-cable to the oven outlet hung out the back window. Problem solved.

... and then someone put a pizza in the oven while the car was plugged in ...

 

[Veritable Quandry]

... and then someone put a pizza in the oven while the car was plugged in ...

I did mention new problems.

 

[Essence Lumin]

I am definitely not brave enough to use some kind of multi-plug or extension cable on a 240 outlet...

I wouldn't be either. Do Europeans feel differently? That's standard voltage for everything there.

 

[Bartholomew Gallacher]

I wouldn't be either. Do Europeans feel differently? That's standard voltage for everything there.

Actually 240 volts is also the standard voltage in American homes, it's just that you get it as split phase power. But some of your appliances, like clothes dryer, A/C or kitchen stove do use 240 volts indeed.

Coming to extension cables: lower voltage transferred normally does normally relate to bigger thickness of your wire conductor. The other thing which is important is the maximum amp the cable is rated for.

So using 120V cables on 220V outlets normally should be without issues, since 120V cables are thicker than 240V ones. The other way around you might be in for a nasty surprise, namely a cable burn if drawing too much amps on such a cable then. Anyway a cable burn is the danger on all systems, regardless which power supply, when drawing too much power on a single cable not rated for that.

At the end of the day what really matters it the maximum amp rating of a cable as well. Don't forget: V*A = W. So higher voltage means here more transferred power. Because regardless the used voltage, when drawing more power from a cable than it is rated for the cable will start to suffer severely.

 

[Essence Lumin]

Actually 240 volts is also the standard voltage in American homes, it's just that you get it as split phase power. But some of your appliances, like clothes dryer, A/C or kitchen stove do use 240 volts indeed.

Coming to extension cables: lower voltage transferred normally does normally relate to bigger thickness of your wire conductor. The other thing which is important is the maximum amp the cable is rated for.

So using 120V cables on 220V outlets normally should be without issues, since 120V cables are thicker than 240V ones. The other way around you might be in for a nasty surprise, namely a cable burn if drawing too much amps on such a cable then. Anyway a cable burn is the danger on all systems, regardless which power supply, when drawing too much power on a single cable not rated for that.

At the end of the day what really matters it the maximum amp rating of a cable as well. Don't forget: V*A = W. So higher voltage means here more transferred power. Because regardless the used voltage, when drawing more power from a cable than it is rated for the cable will start to suffer severely.

I know all that thanks to being a ham radio enthusiasts long ago, though others might not so thanks for writing. My question though, was would someone be likely to see something like this in Europe given even their low current devices operate at 240 volts?

 

[detrius]

I know all that thanks to being a ham radio enthusiasts long ago, though others might not so thanks for writing. My question though, was would someone be likely to see something like this in Europe given even their low current devices operate at 240 volts?

Sure, but with Schuko or EU plugs.

Those US plugs look way too skeevy to me.

 

[Bartholomew Gallacher]

I know all that thanks to being a ham radio enthusiasts long ago, though others might not so thanks for writing. My question though, was would someone be likely to see something like this in Europe given even their low current devices operate at 240 volts?

Just looks like under my desk, and my PC is hooked upon a multi plug with decent GPU.