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The DUP was essential to getting Brexit done, what did they expect to get out of it?
 

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Against Biden? What did he do for them to get mad at?
The simple answer is the same for many related (and unrelated) questions of like ilk: Exist.
 
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Against Biden? What did he do for them to get mad at?
Supported the EU against the UK over the requirement to treat various foodstuffs imported into NI from the UK Mainland (particularly sausages but other items too) as imports from a third country for the purposes of customs and food-standards inspections.

This, it is feared, will lead to many mainland supermarket chains and major exporters stopping exports to NI altogether, and relying on increased exports via the Republic to make up any local shortages.

The Unionists are upset about this because they see it both as a betrayal of promised Johnson made to them before the election, which it is, but at the time this was obvious, and they can't have believed Johnson would honour his promises, since he was making contradictory commitments depending on his audience, and as a further step forward on their inevitable, though highly unwelcome, path to leaving the UK and becoming part of the Republic.

They're on the wrong side of history, and they know it, but they're determined to delay things as much as possible and fight it every step of the way.

They ain't happy, and with good reason, since Johnson took them for suckers by making them impossible promises and then discarding them, just as he's done to his former wives, mistresses and girlfriends when he no longer wants them around, and they're taking it out on anyone who seems to be siding with their enemies in the EU and the Republic.
 
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Supported the EU against the UK over the requirement to treat various foodstuffs imported into NI from the UK Mainland (particularly sausages but other items too) as imports from a third country for the purposes of customs and food-standards inspections.

This, it is feared, will lead to many mainland supermarket chains and major exporters stopping exports to NI altogether, and relying on increased exports via the Republic to make up any local shortages.

The Unionists are upset about this because they see it both as a betrayal of promised Johnson made to them before the election, which it is, but at the time this was obvious, and they can't have believed Johnson would honour his promises, since he was making contradictory commitments depending on his audience, and as a further step forward on their inevitable, though highly unwelcome, path to leaving the UK and becoming part of the Republic.

They're on the wrong side of history, and they know it, but they're determined to delay things as much as possible and fight it every step of the way.

They ain't happy, and with good reason, since Johnson took them for suckers by making them impossible promises and then discarding them, just as he's done to his former wives, mistresses and girlfriends when he no longer wants them around, and they're taking it out on anyone who seems to be siding with their enemies in the EU and the Republic.
Silly of them to believe Boris would keep his promises indeed, but it's like the MAGAs who keep believing the former guy.
And even if he kept his promises, they were promises made while TFG was president. And his could Boris promise for someone else anyway?
But they're conservatives, so....
 

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Silly of them to believe Boris would keep his promises indeed, but it's like the MAGAs who keep believing the former guy.
And even if he kept his promises, they were promises made while TFG was president. And his could Boris promise for someone else anyway?
But they're conservatives, so....
No, they were promises made to the DUP MPs in Parliament and in public statements and replies.

The infuriating thing is that the whole problem is easily soluble, but the British government is refusing, on completely domestic and ideological grounds, to sign up to a perfectly reasonable solution proposed by the EU.

Instead our government is accusing the EU of being unreasonable by insisting that the UK comply with the terms of the Withdrawal Agreement that Johnson himself signed and endorsed and pushed through Parliament only 18 months ago.

We'll see what happens, but I think Johnson and his Brexit crew are now playing chicken with the EU, trying to make them back down first, to set the precedent for how further negotiations should go, and they are findng their bluff has been called.

Only last week I was talking to an ex-military friend of mine who served in NI back in the 90s, and his feelings about seeing Johnson risk it getting like that again can only be imagined.

He did, though, make the point that the actual paramilitaries on both sides almost certainly don't want to let that happen, both because they don't want their children's and grandchildren's communities to have to go through what they did, and also because the networks that used to be used to smuggle guns and explosives have, for the last 20 years, been far more safely and lucratively used for smuggling drugs and people, and the hard men would like to keep it that way.
 

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The "anti -woke"news channel. 🙄
I'm getting real tired of the word "woke". It seems to have degenerated into a club for conservatives to pound "the libs" and progressives (are they the "woke"?) with.
 
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Ironically the fishing industry got quite a big hit, which was one of the main supporters in the public image for Brexit.
 
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