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Some small investors on Reddit have found a way to dramatically troll the stock market, and it is making Wall Street furious. It's an interesting turn of events. Some back story:



 

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Congress won't do anything about this. They don't need to. If Wall Street decides to stop this from happening again, they are definitely capable of doing it all by themselves.
 
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Hey, that name looks familiar.
 

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They are playing with my pension fund's money and most likely with yours as well.
I don't like these self proclaimed Robin Hoods at all.
They have just as 'noble' goals as the Wall Street funds.
 

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I've been digging through older Reddit posts a bit, and I have a theory on how this really started...

The Redditors look stupid, but they actually had some decent analysis before they took up this position. Gamestop was something like 80% owned by short sellers, and 70% of them bought in when it was around $7. So 70% of them were underwater before GME hit $10. Their cash on hand was worth more than their market cap. At the same time, new consoles were just released, so even if management are a bunch of morons, Reddit knows for a fact that GME aren't going under while people are buying new consoles in a frenzy of hype. Not for the next year or two, at least.

This was economic injustice, and Reddit is capitalizing on that.

The mystery is... why did Wall St set themselves up for this? They have some of the smartest people in the world, so how could they make such a massive mistake? If you look at the climate of the market, short sellers have been losing their shirts left and right for the past year or two. Indexes of the most shorted stocks rose in 2019, and 2020, to the point where short selling is out of fashion. What made them all want to short gamestop at once? This is a massive, obvious error, so how can they all make the same mistake together? (lets assume they don't have a conspiracy)

My ridiculous theory on this is that I blame Bezos. Or Zuckerberg, Nadella, Pichai... take your pick. One of the big FAANG companies caused this. Why?

These big firms all use some version of AI driven technical analysis to make trades, or at least inform their trading decisions. We like to think that they all have rocket scientists on payroll to do this, like the guy in the big short, but they don't (BTW, remember the scientist in the big short who didn't wear shoes and predicted the 2008 crash? He has had a huge long position in GME for the past year).

What hedge funds have, instead of serious data scientists, are computer techs who can use things like AWS or Microsoft Azure... you know, machine learning APIs. Every time you see somebody getting a job as an artificial intelligence specialist after attending an AI bootcamp, those people aren't actually doing all the high level math required to build AIs. They are experts at feeding data to and retrieving data from one or two big AIs, that are on Amazon or Microsoft's cloud. That's a good skill set, and the AIs they use might be excellent. I bet amazon and Microsoft have some of the brightest mathematicians in the world building their AIs. It's still a problem if everybody in the world decides to use the same AI to pick stocks. If everybody agrees that GME is going bankrupt, because they all use the same AI, and the AI said so, then maybe the big investors make the same mistakes at the same time, leading to what we see right now.

So I see all this stupidity as just another result of machines driving humans insane, just like with Q, and flat earth. We always thought we would have to worry about the machines becoming conscious and going insane, but turns out, the reverse is true. When machines grow intelligent, humans are the ones who go insane.
 

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That's right, this whole GameStop investor thing can be blamed on AI.

The Terminator didn't have a very good stock portfolio, either.
 
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The big development today is that Robin Hood is shutting down purchases of GME stock. Robin Hood is a trading platform for people who don't have massive wads of cash to invest, it's what most of Reddit is using. Reddit is screaming for class action lawsuits over this. If redditors try to sell now, they will get screwed, because whose going to buy their sell orders? The rational move is to hold, and the big Wall St firms think redditors are too stupid to realize that.


Also, Robin Hood hid GME, Nokia, and AMC theaters from their search:


Also, from the chatter, it looks like there was a short attack last night when the wall st bets subreddit went down. In other words, in after hours trading, the big market makers who have the ability to execute trades after hours are making the stock dip overnight to try to scare people into selling when markets first open in the morning. They will probably keep doing this until the situation resolves.

Just to be clear, I don't trade stock at all. I'm just sitting here like...
 
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gamestop has been dying for a years due to everyone buying online. i bought a couple shares hoping someone would buy out the company eventually. There was rumors Microsoft would buy it for a long time. The pandemic just sped up more retailers into closing faster. alot of the struggling companies Reddit is talking you don't hear much... , Dillards, Blackberry, Bed bath and beyond.(AMC everyone knows it's struggling)... alot of them are being squeezed out by the elites with the media in thier pockets pushing the stories to drive up and down prices.. it's common tactic they have been doing for decades. buy each other out and either drive them to the ground so less competition or assimilate them and turn them into a shell of what they were.... re-sold and rebranded into something no one knows about.. it' a big money making casino game.


With more people at home not having jobs, taking time to learn new skills, use new digital tools, how to trade and read data. Poor people are learning thier game too. and they Finally caught on. watching them meltdown on CNN and NBC for regulation was amazing. They don't belive poor people should be playing their game. No rules have been broken and everything is legal cause they made the rules.. we are just using the same tactic. now they are trying to hold stocks, block Digital platforms and spread rumors to bounce the market back in their favor while young investors and traders are ganging up and trying find any hole they can exploit and creating giant bubbles in their toy game.

AMC is the go to stock today. Dying company is being saved by in flux of money.
 
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It's really interesting to see politicians and influencers jump on this today. There's too many to link to, but so far, /r/wallstreetbets has been tweeted support from a diverse array of big names... AOC (and one other member of the squad whose name I always forget), Ja Rule, Ben Shapiro, sNinja, Elon Musk, and Mark Cuban. And those are just the names that come to mind as I'm typing this. It's like 2020's version of the We Are The World music video, but instead of singing, they are all coming to together to shit on Robin Hood, LOL

If you still aren't clear on why this is so bizarre, you should see how /r/wallstreetbets talks. They really are 4chan with a trading app. Before the celebrity rush, earlier today, somebody posted this, describing the dramatis personae, as they see it.

Here's a song they made about their epic battle, LOL
 
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Isn't this normally how the market works? Some investors get foolish or lazy and other investors discipline them? Shorting stocks has always been risky and IIRC the great depression happened in no small part through leveraging and short selling in just this same way. The only difference is bucket shops are now online and "the wisdom of the crowds" is now a more informed a player because there is a bit more transparency for crowd-sourced opinion makers to make better plays on the market.
 

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The markets just closed. GME ended at $193, after a high of $483 today. Volume dropped off a LOT when the trading platform blockade against GME hit. When the blockade breaks, the price will probably spike. Right before closing, public.com said they got it cleared with Apex that they can reopen buying GME, so the industry blockade is cracking. It might go away all together tomorrow. Tonight, I expect the industry to keep hittitng GME with short attacks.

AOC is hitting up Twitch tonight at 8:30 to talk about Gamestop. That's a weird sentence to type. I'm guessing she means 8:30 PM, EST? I don't watch Twitch enough to really know how time zones work, but I'll probably tune in. It's always good to see her talk.


Some industry types are trying to spread the lie that redditors are hacking Wall St servers to make GME stock spike. That's clearly a lie. Here's a Youtuber who seems pretty passionate that people need to know that's a lie, because our elected officials are too stupid to know that if we don't tell them (this is a great channel if you need to fix your own apple products, by the way)


Also, IDK if this is related to GME at all or not, because I know nothing about crypto markets... but dogecoin is up! Might want to take some profits if you're invested in it. Or not. I've read Satoshi's paper, and I do understand it, but I still don't know why people buy crypto.

 
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