How COVID-19 is affecting society

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Some of them just don't care if everyone is taken out.

Just charge her with endangering the public health and, in their own words, lock her up. Obviously you would not want even more of the virus in the jail so it can even be home arrest.
 

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Everclear is 190 proof, except in those states where that is banned, where it is 189 proof instead.
Ah, did not realize it was that high.

I know someone with an alchohol problem who keeps a bottle of everclear. Not for drinking but as a firestarter.
 

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[T]he frequency of car accidents — and deaths and injuries associated with them — has plummeted across the U.S. as the country’s workforce stays home.

Data obtained by TPM shows that car accidents in New York City halved in March and April 2020, compared to the same timeframe in 2019.

A California study, run by the University of California-Davis’s Road Ecology center, found a similar decrease in car crashes.
 

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I believe what was meant was that the "metropolitan area" extends across three states: New York, New Jersey, and Connecticut.
If that was what he meant, he both said it wrong (city rather than metro area) and was factually wrong (4 rather than 3 states). Metro areas are defined by economic connections, and all those counties have sufficient connection to the city proper. For example, my parents lived in the Bronx, and bought vacation land in Pike County, PA.
 

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Yeah, Everclear may not be strictly safe to drink, because it's basically gasoline, but I hear it makes for a great "Get exorcist sick" drunken stupor. Awesome for an extended shelter in place.
Where I used to work we called it rocket fuel. Huntsville, AL is where a lot of the German rocket scientists ended up, and the V-2 rocket used Ethanol as the fuel (only 75% grade though)
 

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2 years ago when we were outsourced to our new corporate overlords - they weren't sure how they felt about having close to 300 people working from home full time. They'd never had anyone work from home before. Well suddenly they're very, "yay! everyone work from home!" I think we're going to see a lot more of that. I read that they estimate 30% of the work force could work from home at least part of the time. It would probably do a lot for pollution and car crashes if 30% of the population didn't have to commute anymore.
 

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2 years ago when we were outsourced to our new corporate overlords - they weren't sure how they felt about having close to 300 people working from home full time. They'd never had anyone work from home before. Well suddenly they're very, "yay! everyone work from home!" I think we're going to see a lot more of that. I read that they estimate 30% of the work force could work from home at least part of the time. It would probably do a lot for pollution and car crashes if 30% of the population didn't have to commute anymore.
Just before all this my spouse was shortlisted for a job on the west coast and asked if she could work from home. They said no. Even though it is typical wfh stuff. Now all of their employees are working from home. Whomever they hired is a wfh now. Karma I guess?
 

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Just before all this my spouse was shortlisted for a job on the west coast and asked if she could work from home. They said no. Even though it is typical wfh stuff. Now all of their employees are working from home. Whomever they hired is a wfh now. Karma I guess?
As I understand it from friends in the US (including one who applied for a job with LL), the problem with allowing employees to work from home when that home is out of state is that it can, depending on the tax laws of the employee's home state, create a significant tax liability for the company where none would otherwise exist (since by having a full-time employee based there, that means they're doing business there, at least according to the law in some states).

So many businesses apparently have a list of states where they can have full-time employees who work from home, but everyone else has to relocate.
 
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Just before all this my spouse was shortlisted for a job on the west coast and asked if she could work from home. They said no. Even though it is typical wfh stuff. Now all of their employees are working from home. Whomever they hired is a wfh now. Karma I guess?
Half the reason I have not been supernagressive about looking at other positions at my company is that its not clear how open they are to remote work.

Hell, I am not even talking about work from home level, I am talking "Come to this same building" only do something else (some kind of coding or remote management of severs).

Its really dumb how much old school management thinks people need to be in the same room to be "productive".
 

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In contrast to the dreadful pandemic-adjustment of so many companies, the one I'm working for seems to be doing it right at every level. The core business is risk consulting, which usually involves significant travel, but they shifted quickly to work@home and the top execs are very pleased with how smoothly that transition went and how productive everyone has stayed. Since so many people were outfitted to work on site with clients, that means we're also just as prepared to work from home instead of the homebase office.

I just finished listening to a live-stream meeting with the executive team, and they clearly outlined the steps they're taking to protect everyone's jobs, so for the near-term there won't be any lay-offs. Top execs are taking deep pay cuts; money is being saved on all that travel that isn't happening; conferences, trainings & meetings are being canceled for the remainder of the year; the bonus pot for regular employees will be reviewed at the end of the year when we have a better idea of the economic impact of the pandemic. (Personally, I'm quite willing to cede any bonus to keep everyone on the base payroll.)

Interesting repercussions for society: the executive team is also looking at changing terms for property leases as they come up for renewal. In view of how many people are working comfortably from home, there will be less demand for office space so landlords are going to find themselves at the short end of negotiations. But the team is also looking at how to remodel the office layouts for increased safety considerations. And they're taking another look at travel policies and how to cut back on a more permanent basis.

And in the near future, as various locations are opening up, our company is taking a conservative approach to returning to the office. Their policy for now is "Unless you have overriding reason to return, consider staying at home as the most prudent course of action." And as our clients open up, their policies will be reviewed carefully before allowing our own employees to go to those client offices.

So our company is the model of responsibility to employees and the community. For all my usual cynicism and wariness of corporate greed, I have to say I'm really impressed with their integrity.
 

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<-- doodling a new avatar image.

When it comes to choosing between the virus and the militant Covidiots...
I'm actually sorta rooting for the disease. *sigh*
 
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Today's coping mechanism...
<-- doodling a new avatar image.

When it comes to choosing between the virus and the militant Covidiots...
I'm actually sorta rooting for the disease. *sigh*
Once they started blockading hospitals with rifles my desire to share the planet with them pretty much bottomed out.
 

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As I understand it from friends in the US (including one who applied for a job with LL), the problem with allowing employees to work from home when that home is out of state is that it can, depending on the tax laws of the employee's home state, create a significant tax liability for the company where none would otherwise exist (since by having a full-time employee based there, that means they're doing business there, at least according to the law in some states).

So many businesses apparently have a list of states where they can have full-time employees who work from home, but everyone else has to relocate.
Interesting. I wonder what laws apply as she has done wfh to other states before?