"Woke" and other Republican bugaboos

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It's another way of saying "people who believe in the Bible or parts thereof". The Old Testament is about the Jews, and the New Testament is about Jesus and his followers.
However, that definition would include Muslims too, which I don't think is what's intended by most people who use the term.
 

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Hence, "Judeo-Christian",to specifically exclude Muslims.
And Jews don't call it the "Old" Testament.
The implication is that the New Testament supersedes the "Old".
Matthew 5:17-20

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17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.
 

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However, that definition would include Muslims too, which I don't think is what's intended by most people who use the term.
Yus. I think the correct term for this family of religions when one isn't specifically trying to exclude Muslims is "Abrahamic".
 

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Hence, "Judeo-Christian",to specifically exclude Muslims.
And Jews don't call it the "Old" Testament.
The implication is that the New Testament supersedes the "Old".
I didn't mean the Bible says so, I meant the Evangelicals and Christian Dominionists say so.
The ones who cherry -pick the Bible, and want to make everyone else their kind of Christian, it at least subservient to them.
In other words, not anyone who'd know enough to quote that passage, or anything wiser he said that doesn't fit in with their worldview,
 
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And Jews don't call it the "Old" Testament.
The implication is that the New Testament supersedes the "Old".
I'm quite aware they refer to it as the Law (5 books of Moses) and the Prophets (the remainder). But that is how the Bible as a single volume is divided. Jesus said he is not changing a word of the older "books" (i.e. the chapters of the Old Testament). Any supposed Christian who claims the New supersedes the Old isn't a proper follower of Christ.
 

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LOL I kind of genuinely want to know how this person thinks we acquired the Black Hills, if they are so sure the land WASN'T unilaterally taken from the Native people who lived there.
I think everyone knows Jesus gave them to us.
 

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Rallying parents around concepts that aren’t taught in textbooks isn’t a new political strategy for the American right – it’s a fundamental part of how Republicans have rebranded themselves over the past 50 years, according to Carol Mason, a professor at the University of Kentucky and the author of Reading Appalachia from Left to Right: Conservatives and the 1974 Kanawha County Textbook Controversy. Mason’s book takes readers to small-town West Virginia where a school board meeting on textbook selection quickly escalated into violent protests that saw the Ku Klux Klan marching in the streets, school buses shot up and a kindergarten classroom dynamited. While many of the protesters had no idea what was actually in the books they were protesting against, they had been successfully incited by thinktanks such as the Heritage Foundation, a key source for misinformation on critical race theory today, into violence that captured national media attention.
 

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More importantly, the moment taught conservative power brokers how to successfully co-opt the protest culture of the left to rebrand the right, Mason said in an interview with the Guardian. No longer would the Republican party be the party of eggheads like William F Buckley Jr. Instead it would be loud and in the streets, all while masking white supremacy with working-class values. And nowhere was the ground more fertile than West Virginia, where labor strikes, led predominantly by poor white people, were a daily part of life.
Sounds familiar for some reason.
 

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LOL I kind of genuinely want to know how this person thinks we acquired the Black Hills, if they are so sure the land WASN'T unilaterally taken from the Native people who lived there.
wow... I was taught a lot of pro-American propaganda in school and some fast and loose "facts" but even then it was openly taught that we seized the land from the Native Americans and it was kind of ugly... I can't imagine telling kids that things like slavery or the conquest of the Native Americans was all sunshine and roses... Most of the bigger lies I was taught was in regards to foreign policy where there is a bit more plausible deniability. For example, I was told we by far did the most to defeat NAZI Germany and that's just a known fact...
 

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wow... I was taught a lot of pro-American propaganda in school and some fast and loose "facts" but even then it was openly taught that we seized the land from the Native Americans and it was kind of ugly... I can't imagine telling kids that things like slavery or the conquest of the Native Americans was all sunshine and roses... Most of the bigger lies I was taught was in regards to foreign policy where there is a bit more plausible deniability. For example, I was told we by far did the most to defeat NAZI Germany and that's just a known fact...
Paha Sapa, very sacred land, was stolen from MY people.
 

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wow... I was taught a lot of pro-American propaganda in school and some fast and loose "facts" but even then it was openly taught that we seized the land from the Native Americans and it was kind of ugly... I can't imagine telling kids that things like slavery or the conquest of the Native Americans was all sunshine and roses... Most of the bigger lies I was taught was in regards to foreign policy where there is a bit more plausible deniability. For example, I was told we by far did the most to defeat NAZI Germany and that's just a known fact...
Same here, and in high school they went into those things in detail, including exactly the sort of material the West Virginia textbook fight (which happened then, and I don't recall reading about it, but I'm in librul New York).We read John Brown's Body, Bury My Heart At Wounded Knee, Black Life Me, and more.
Reading about Wounded Knee was heartbreaking. I'd never been taught that "Manifest Destiny" was right, just that it happened. I recall being glad my forebears weren't part of it. Slavery either.
I never felt like it was "my people" doing it, because I was taught from a very early age about the Nazis, and how they and other white supremacists regarded the Jews. But none of the Christian kids who were white by those definitions, weren't made to feel "uncomfortable" (as today's conservatives put it),and I know at least some of them came from conservative families (and even voted for TFG).
But the people who fight yes sorry of battles don't care if what they're ranting about ever actually happened. Strawmen are probably even more useful if there's are no pesky facts to contradict the narrative.
 
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You know who else doesn't like le wokism?


(All Brits know in their bones that, if the US and the French agree about something, it's almost certainly a bad idea).
 

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Go Woke, Go Broke Doesn't Exist And The Proof Is Barbie And Baldur's Gate 3 (thegamer.com)
A cohort of far right morons got a little too cocky after turning Bud Light into a pilsner non grata among American conservatives through an unhinged boycott over the company sending one (1) customized can of beer to trans influencer Dylan Mulvaney. As stupid as that boycott was, it did actually manage to hurt the beer’s sales. Right-wing commentator Ben Shapiro imagined that Barbie would be similarly hurt with audiences by its progressive themes, confidently predicting a huge second weekend drop. That didn’t happen, and Greta Gerwig’s comedy has now made over a billion dollars. Facts don’t care about your feelings, Shapiro.

Meanwhile, over on Steam, Baldur’s Gate 3 is enjoying one of the biggest launches in the history of the platform, with 814,666 concurrents at its peak. That number puts it in rarified air, alongside Cyberpunk 2077, Hogwarts Legacy, and Elden Ring. Larian co-founder Swen Vincke joked that he would be staying away from the company’s IT team for a while following the huge surge of players, saying he “told them they should expect like 100k or so at max.”'

Baldur’s Gate 3 is progressive in a lot of ways, including its trans-inclusive character creator which allows players to pair any genitals with any voice, and select from male, female, and non-binary gender options. It’s similarly open-minded about sexuality, with some male players expressing frustration that they can’t prevent their male companions from hitting on them. Apparently, it’s also possible to form a throuple with two of your companions. All of this would make Shapiro and his ilk seethe… and yet it’s one of the biggest games of the year.