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Well, this line of thought sounds really suspiciously like something Alice Weidel came up with during the last few weeks. In case the name doesn't ring a bell - Alice Weidel is the president of the new right wing party AfD in Germany.

Weidel called Adolf Hitler in a recent interview a communist. Why? Because his party was named Nationalsozialismus, so in her view Hitler was a communist. This serves two fold purposes, namely moving him to the other end of the political spectrum and two putting all communists in a bad light. In other words fabricated, bad context.

What you are doing here is nothing more then Dialektische Rabulistik, a bad form of sophistry, which Arthur Schopenhauer wrote down in the 19th century.

In other words you are using the same technics well known right wing nut cases are using to legitimate their stance, making one look less dangerous and such. You should be really proud about yourself to have joined their ranks.
Condemning socialism/communism by association with Hitler, is like condemning blonde people by associating then with Jeffrey Dahmer.

One could just as easily condemn Christianity and the Catholic Church by association with Hitler.

Not being 'wrong" doesn't make it right.
 

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And also Public Radio. He's going to make a play for it, but the amount of money they get is minuscule, it's almost totally member funded. Most of the government funding goes to rural areas for public radio expansion. I keep current with the Guardian and the Washington Post, whose future is now in doubt. Al Jazera, the Christian Science Monitor, and Deutsche Welle may have to supplement that.







Can anyone recommend some good international media? Maybe we could put together a list so users here can promote it on their own social media posts.

Reuters. BBC. The UK's ITN, Channel 4 News, and Sky are good, too. The Financial Times, but it's paywalled and pretty expensive (I have a very limited "top stories" subscription).
 

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Condemning socialism/communism by association with Hitler, is like condemning blonde people by associating then with Jeffrey Dahmer.

One could just as easily condemn Christianity and the Catholic Church by association with Hitler.

Not being 'wrong" doesn't make it right.
The whole "nazis were actually left wing, you can tell because they were national SOCIALISTS" schtick has been being repeated throughout the internet for at least 15 years that I'm aware of -almost as long as the whole "it's the democrats who were slaveowners" spiel has been. It's a classic example of "repeat something often enough and people will believe it".
 

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Going to be interesting when the EU and the UK start sanctioning both the co-president's X and the part-US owned TikTok for hate speech, disinformation, etc.
I can't... Handle... Four more years... Of the way he fucking talks....

I can't....
 

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Condemning socialism/communism by association with Hitler, is like condemning blonde people by associating then with Jeffrey Dahmer.

One could just as easily condemn Christianity and the Catholic Church by association with Hitler.

Not being 'wrong" doesn't make it right.
BTW I forgot to mention that Alice Weidel was interviewed by Elon Musk, who is an open supporter of her party. It was during below interview she said Hitler was a communist.

 
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BTW I forgot to mention the Alice Weidel was interviewed by Elon Musk, who is an open supporter of her party. It was during below interview she said Hitler was a communist.

I'm sure she knows Hitler was a far cry from being a communist. He was suspicious of unfettered capitalism, but no serious educated person thinks he was a communist. I think this is a tactic to try to distance her party from Hitler.
 

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I'm sure she knows Hitler was a far cry from being a communist.
I'm positive all of the people who spread around this lie do so knowingly.
I'll never be convinced otherwise.

For me, it's a litmus test. The minute someone says the nazis were 'leftists' or says that it was the democrats who founded the KKK is the minute I stop listening to anything else they have to say -forever.
 

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I'm sure she knows Hitler was a far cry from being a communist. He was suspicious of unfettered capitalism, but no serious educated person thinks he was a communist. I think this is a tactic to try to distance her party from Hitler.
Before going into politics Weidel worked for Goldman Sachs. She passed her PhD in economics with magna cum laude, also speaks Mandarin. So she's too smart not to know.
 
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I'm sure she knows Hitler was a far cry from being a communist. He was suspicious of unfettered capitalism, but no serious educated person thinks he was a communist. I think this is a tactic to try to distance her party from Hitler.
I don't think you understand how to think properly in the new order we have chosen. There are only two types of people, Communists, who are satan, and Capitalists, who are God's chosen perfection.

This is 100% binary, with no pverlap or wiggle room or middle ground.
 

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I nearly threw up when I heard his voice inadvertently on the TV news channel. Had not intended to listen to the inauguration, pre-inauguration blather. It's like an instantaneous visceral reaction of pure disgust. I had to turn it off immediately, the sound was so sickening. :sick:
 

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I nearly threw up when I heard his voice inadvertently on the TV news channel. Had not intended to listen to the inauguration, pre-inauguration blather. It's like an instantaneous visceral reaction of pure disgust. I had to turn it off immediately, the sound was so sickening. :sick:
I can relate; that's how I've felt since 2016. I just can't do it -I have to walk out of the room if I can't change the channel.
 

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I can relate; that's how I've felt since 2016. I just can't do it -I have to walk out of the room if I can't change the channel.
Trump's voice triggers me. So much about how he enunciates -and- chooses his words and the way he bloviates, mocks, hyperbolizes, snares people in his idiotic ambiguous word salads... it all sounds like my dad, with whom I have had a lifetime of loud screaming arguments as he pushes my buttons to the point where I just can't take anymore. All the while pretending like he's blameless and >I'm< the crazy one.

He thrives on stirring up shit, he's a troll in RL, playing just inside the social rules to provoke others (not just me, I've seen him reduce others to tears of frustration and rage with his god damned patronizing blunderbuss of cherrypicked 'facts' and anecdotal bullshit).

And now I have to sit through 4 more years of his narcissistic ego-maniacal doppleganger spewing rectal rhetoric from the White House.

I'm normally good at not punching my monitor, but I may have to keep a spare one on hand... just in case.
 

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Diversion: On a good note, despite all the hellishness, I just totally adore your new forum avatar pic, Jopsy! I mean it. :love:
Thank you! =) I'm still struggling to get more of a 'green goatee' so that it matches up with my SL avatar more, but it definitely captures that kind of puckish/rogue/fae/free-spirit nature that I like to think kind of encapsulates my personality. =D
 
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I don't think you understand how to think properly in the new order we have chosen. There are only two types of people, Communists, who are satan, and Capitalists, who are God's chosen perfection.

This is 100% binary, with no pverlap or wiggle room or middle ground.
*Rod Serling voice* There is a zone. A dimension not only of space and time but of mind and bazonga-big bucks, baby. A zone where one can be both a billionaire ... and a commie.

This man is George Soros. He and his "special friend" Bill Gates live in that zone --------------------------------------- The Twilight Zone. *cue theme*



(Yes, I know MS looks like an early sell-out, but Bill doesn't really run that joint anymore and hasn't for a long time.)
 

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