Nobody Cares: Technology-only Edition

[danielravennest]

The second is a new feature for Excel called "Money for Excel", and is useful if you use an Excel spreadsheet to manage your personal budget.

Is that like putting all your recipes on the computer?

A spreadsheet for my budget is overkill. I use a spiral notepad. The start of every month I write down (A) my expected bills, followed by (B) current bank balances and expected deposits. So long as B > A, I'm good for the month. As bills get paid, I cross them off the list.

 

[Dakota Tebaldi]

Is that like putting all your recipes on the computer?

A spreadsheet for my budget is overkill. I use a spiral notepad. The start of every month I write down (A) my expected bills, followed by (B) current bank balances and expected deposits. So long as B > A, I'm good for the month. As bills get paid, I cross them off the list.

Well, spreadsheet is kind of a really long word, figuratively speaking. A spreadsheet certainly CAN be as complicated as someone wants it to be, but it can also be as dead simple as "exactly what you just described, just on a computer instead of paper", and in that kind of case this feature just autofills the deposits and the bill payments.

I would go as far as saying that ANYTHING, no matter how complicated, that has ever been done on a computer spreadsheet, can be done on a spiral notepad, and vice-versa - which makes sense, because that's what spreadsheets were invented to substitute for.

 

[Essence Lumin]

The Ubuntu that MS provides with windows has improved at some point. The last time I tried it, it was a mess because their teminal was all screwed up. I would backspace or use the arrows or try to use vim and letters would blank out or lines would dissappear from view. How they messed up something that basic in the first place is beyond me but it seems they have fixed it.

 

[Soen Eber]

But can a spiral notebook give you circular reference errors? Progress, I say, Progress! Onwards! Upwards!

 

[Free]

The Ubuntu that MS provides with windows has improved at some point. The last time I tried it, it was a mess because their teminal was all screwed up. I would backspace or use the arrows or try to use vim and letters would blank out or lines would dissappear from view.

Sounds like you may have been using command.com or the standard Windows shell to go into the "Bash on Ubuntu on Windows" environment, rather than straight through the Bash terminal shell that installed with the Linux subsystem. I had a few problems with it early on, but mostly I was able to replicate keyboard functionality you'd expect.

 

[Free]

But can a spiral notebook give you circular reference errors?

You've apparently never seen my math notes.

 

[Casey Pelous]

...First, the latest update to Windows 10 begins mindlessly breaking everything you hold precious and dear next month. ...

There, that's better.

 

[Clara D.]

There, that's better.

Oh, it'll works fine.

If you never plan to print anything.

Or never, ever used a VPN via WiFi

 

[Free]

If you never plan to print anything.

ANCIENT TECHNOLOGY

 

[Khamon]

Yeah but people do. I have people using a VPN to access the corporate network to submit requests, through a site-to-site tunnel that requires dedicated translations, to generate reports that will sit on their office printers until they return. The remote service will generate PDF and Excel versions of the documents that users can retrieve via ftp, and store on OneDrive, but nooooo that would be modern and difficult and require years worth of manhours of training and WE. MUST. HAVE. TEH. PAPRZ1

eta: MUST. ALSO. HAVE. STAPLE. STAPLE. STAPLE. MOAR1

 

[Essence Lumin]

Sounds like you may have been using command.com or the standard Windows shell to go into the "Bash on Ubuntu on Windows" environment, rather than straight through the Bash terminal shell that installed with the Linux subsystem. I had a few problems with it early on, but mostly I was able to replicate keyboard functionality you'd expect.

No, I clicked on Ubuntu on the start menu and it gave me a shell.

 

[Free]

No, I clicked on Ubuntu on the start menu and it gave me a shell.

Hrm. Must have been an early early preview of it. Anywho, these days even the Windows shell is much improved.

 

[Noodles]

Is that like putting all your recipes on the computer?

A spreadsheet for my budget is overkill. I use a spiral notepad. The start of every month I write down (A) my expected bills, followed by (B) current bank balances and expected deposits. So long as B > A, I'm good for the month. As bills get paid, I cross them off the list.

I have a crazy budget spread sheet that auto totals various categories and whatnot. Its pretty cool.

 

[Noodles]

Hrm. Must have been an early early preview of it. Anywho, these days even the Windows shell is much improved.

I have been using this and its great. I need to figure out how to make it default open to a Power shell and Ubuntu tab.

Also maybe how to give it my SSH passwords.

 

[Essence Lumin]

Hrm. Must have been an early early preview of it. Anywho, these days even the Windows shell is much improved.

It was a problem at least until 9/25/2019 as that is when I installed vcxserve according to add/remove programs. That is Xwindows that works with MS Ubuntu by the way. It's very nice though takes some fiddling to get installed. That did solve the problem for me back then since it provided its own shell.

So, I don't use it a whole lot obviously but made a little python program that spits out various word lists for scrabble. I needed a linux command line to analyze some of the lists since sort/ uniq/ cut/ egrep are so handy and everything works now.

 

[Dakota Tebaldi]

Hrm. Must have been an early early preview of it. Anywho, these days even the Windows shell is much improved.

Thaaaaat shell is still in beta, you how to download it separately to try it out. ^^

BUT if I'm not mistaken it's supposed to be released next month or so. I believe it will replace the normal Windows shell with next month's update but I'm not 100% sure.

The only thing that seems weird to me about it is that even right now you can't like set your preferences through a menu, you have to directly edit a JSON file I think. That's really odd - I have to imagine a menu would be added at some point.

 

[Essence Lumin]

I believe it will replace the normal Windows shell with next month's update but I'm not 100% sure.

I'm not sure what you mean what you mean by the normal windows shell. If you mean cmd.com that was replaced but still available in 2017. I don't do things like run beta versions of powershell. My current powershell version is 5.1.18362.752.

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4027690/windows-powershell-is-replacing-command-prompt

 

[Free]

Thaaaaat shell is still in beta, you how to download it separately to try it out. ^^

And?

 

[Dakota Tebaldi]

I'm not sure what you mean what you mean by the normal windows shell. If you mean cmd.com that was replaced but still available in 2017. I don't do things like run beta versions of powershell. My current powershell version is 5.1.18362.752.

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4027690/windows-powershell-is-replacing-command-prompt

What Free was talking about is that MS is just about to launch this:


Windows Terminal is going to serve as the overarching "shell" on which any console you open will run. So if you run PowerShell - or for that matter cmd, or Bash or any of the other Linux consoles - they will open as a tab inside this Terminal application. It'll also let you open multiple tabs (that can be different consoles) and set individual appearance settings for each console application.

Right now, PowerShell is just PowerShell. Windows Terminal, the upcoming "shell", is what's in beta. You can download the preview if you want to try it before it's released.

In the pre-split Nobody Cares thread, I posted this:


This is an appearance profile that one of the Microsoft devs made for the new Terminal, just as a fun experiment to show what you can make your consoles look like if you want. That's actually PowerShell, working completely as normal, just in a Commodore suit - and with some C64 aliases, of course. ^^

Another one:

 

[Dakota Tebaldi]

Oh hey speaking of throwback stuff.....do you miss.....Windows 3.1's File Explorer? Because if you do, MS put it up for free on the store and published the code to Github.

It doesn't look 100% like it did - the windows inside the program have Vista borders. But, the buttons and icons and menus are all the same and aside from fixes to make it actually work with the modern file system, it functions exactly the way it did back in Windows 3.1. So there's that... ^^