Nobody Cares about TV and Film

[bubblesort]

Yes when will we have "Everplus link because why not" so that we can share video in a free and open fashion all hail hack the planet?

You know they will eventually introduce two tiers, like Hulu and Hulu ad-free. I'm hoping they will start calling the premium versions of things double plus. Then their marketers will encourage us to start referring to things as double plus good.

 

[Caete]

First week they took in $60 million through Disney+. I haven't seen any reports on their take for the second (and now third) weekend.

The issue for theaters, though, is that they get none of that. So even if sales remain high for streaming, it still hurts them.

The problem with streaming and wanting $30 extra for a movie is on a per viewer instance, you'll end up with a lesser return. If myself, my gf, my roommate and hr bf go to the theater to see a movie @15 a ticket, that's 60 spent but only 55% of that goes back to the movie company on average. So they would take back $33 and the theater pockets $27 plus whatever we spend at the concession. If we had stayed home and watched it, sure they would have made slightly less, 30, but the theater makes 0 which is why, in this case, disney decided to not send anyone to CinemaCon. CinemaCon 2021 Still On; Disney’s Absence In-Person Raises Questions

Where this really hurts the movie company is now instead of 3 adults taking 20 kids on a birthday party to see a movie at 3x15 + 20x10 =$245 in tickets with $134.75 returned to the production company, we hold the party at home on the 65" in the living room and ar out only $30 so the movie company loses $104.75 in one instance. Any movie watching gathering of mor than 4 people and they are losing money.

You know what's even more fun about streaming a movie release? Same day high quality piracy! No more shitty cam rips with audience walking in front of the camera, talking, poorly framed, washed out colours etc. Instead you get some gorgeous movies that you can watch over and over and not pay to watch it again and again at a theater nor is there any incentive to buy it on dvd because extras are usually crap and/or trailers. So now they lose another $25 on loss of a dvd sale.

 

[Khamon]

You know they will eventually introduce two tiers, like Hulu and Hulu ad-free. I'm hoping they will start calling the premium versions of things double plus. Then their marketers will encourage us to start referring to things as double plus good.

We'll pay for the service, then pay more to remove ads, then pay more for double plus, then pay a premium per premier. Did I miss any additional fees? Disney wants to know. Perhaps they will charge a concession fee to allow us to eat popcorn while we watch our $135 movie.

edit: punctuation

 

[Free]

WHERE'S THE MONEY?!

Scarlett Johansson is suing Disney over Black Widow’s streaming release

Black Widow’s Disney Plus debut is the subject of a new suit.

www.theverge.com

Scarlett Johansson is suing Disney over the simultaneous streaming release of Black Widow, which debuted the same day in theaters and on Disney Plus through its Premier Access service.

The suit was filed Thursday in Los Angeles Superior Court and alleges that Johansson’s contract with Marvel Entertainment, which is owned by Disney, ensured a “wide theatrical release” of the film. The suit says it’s “well understood” that the agreement meant an exclusive release that would not include streaming. Johansson’s salary was in part based on the box office performance of the film, the suit says, meaning the streaming offer could meaningfully cut into her paycheck.

 

[bubblesort]

I'm just getting into the black list. It's decent, if I imagine James Spader is the protagonist's supervisor, rather than an informant. Also, I have to imagine that the protagonist is not a profiler, because she doesn't behave like a profiler at all, and nobody treats her as a profiler. It seems like every show about federal police has to involve a profiler, who never actually acts like a profiler. The X Files is a great example of that. Fox Mulder was supposed to be a brilliant, Oxford educated criminal profiler, who knew nothing about psychology. He relied on Scully to explain psychological issues all the time. That works for exposition, but it makes the character a lot less credible. As counterpoint... Scully was a doctor who actually behaved like a doctor, doing medical stuff in almost every episode.

I think the criminal profiler crap is just copaganda that makes people think the cops know more about you than they actually do, which can help them force people to confess to things, whether they actually did them or not. "We know you did it because the profiler described a star trek fan, and you have a lot of star trek DVDs... so you might as well confess so the judge will go easy on you!" It would be funny if innocent people didn't fall for that kind of crap all the time.

 

[Free]

The X Files is a great example of that. Fox Mulder was supposed to be a brilliant, Oxford educated criminal profiler, who knew nothing about psychology.

Sounds like a few psychology majors I've known. Mulder started on the FBI in profiling, but eventually moved into violent crimes. Maybe the reason for the shift in divisions was because he sucked at profiling.

 

[Free]

 

[Noodles]

I'm just getting into the black list. It's decent, if I imagine James Spader is the protagonist's supervisor, rather than an informant. Also, I have to imagine that the protagonist is not a profiler, because she doesn't behave like a profiler at all, and nobody treats her as a profiler. It seems like every show about federal police has to involve a profiler, who never actually acts like a profiler. The X Files is a great example of that. Fox Mulder was supposed to be a brilliant, Oxford educated criminal profiler, who knew nothing about psychology. He relied on Scully to explain psychological issues all the time. That works for exposition, but it makes the character a lot less credible. As counterpoint... Scully was a doctor who actually behaved like a doctor, doing medical stuff in almost every episode.

That show is pretty good but it just keeps getting crazier and crazier.

Also, it will be a while until you get there but the season finale when COVID hit is kind of interesting.

 

[Free]

Looks like explosive diarrhea *can* kill off a tv show.

Diarrhea ultimately defeats Ultimate Slip 'N Slide

The NBC series, starring Bobby Moynihan and Ron Funches, has been pulled from the post-Olympics schedule

www.avclub.com

 

[Free]

One of the crappy sides of the DC and Marvel cine-verses.

Marvel and DC face backlash over pay: ‘They sent a thank you note and $5,000 – the movie made $1bn’

As the comics giants make billions from their storylines and characters, writers and artists are speaking out about their struggles for fair payment

www.theguardian.com

The “big two” comic companies – Marvel and DC - may pretend they’ve tapped into some timeless part of the human psyche with characters such as Superman and the Incredible Hulk, but the truth is that their most popular stories have been carefully stewarded through the decades by individual artists and writers. But how much of, say, the Marvel Cinematic Universe’s (MCU) $20bn-plus box office gross went to those who created the stories and characters in it? How are the unknown faces behind their biggest successes being treated?

Not well, according to Brubaker who, with Steve Epting, revived Captain America’s sidekick Bucky Barnes to create the Winter Soldier, portrayed by Sebastian Stan in Marvel’s films and shows. “For the most part, all Steve and I have got for creating the Winter Soldier and his storyline is a ‘thanks’ here or there, and over the years that’s become harder and harder to live with,” Brubaker recently wrote in a newsletter.

 

[Noodles]

Not saying it's a good thing, but it would be interesting to see how much Disney has made off of Marvel Movies versus how much money the comics themselves have made in well, ever.

 

[danielravennest]

Not saying it's a good thing, but it would be interesting to see how much Disney has made off of Marvel Movies versus how much money the comics themselves have made in well, ever.

The whole comics industry had a tradition of paying their writers and artists a pittance and keeping the rights to the characters via "work for hire". Unlike books, there were few publishers for comics, so you had to get hired, rather than make a contract for an advance and royalties. So the creators of Superman, for example, got barely anything until recent years for their work. Stan Lee was one of the few exceptions because he was part owner of Marvel, so he kept the rights to his characters. So he got a big payday when Marvel sold to Disney.

 

[Noodles]

The whole comics industry had a tradition of paying their writers and artists a pittance and keeping the rights to the characters via "work for hire". Unlike books, there were few publishers for comics, so you had to get hired, rather than make a contract for an advance and royalties. So the creators of Superman, for example, got barely anything until recent years for their work. Stan Lee was one of the few exceptions because he was part owner of Marvel, so he kept the rights to his characters. So he got a big payday when Marvel sold to Disney.

I meant more, and these are example numbers, Disney maybe made, 10 billion from MCU movies, and and the entire comics industry has made say, 100 million, in the last hundred years of comics.

I am just curious if the movies have made a ton more than the paper comics from which they originated.

 

[bubblesort]

I just discovered a show called Counterpart. It streams on Amazon, there are two seasons, 20 episodes total. I'm two episodes in, and I love it.

Imagine Loki, except there are only two universes, and they split because of something some cold war scientist did in Berlin a few decades ago. The two universes are having a cold war. The show follows cold war spies doing cold war spy shit, except it's with a parallel dimension, rather than with the soviets and the western world. The spies are all about bureaucracy and arcane opsec rituals. The aesthetics are like Mr Robot, but the cinematography is more stark, with an Atomic Blonde style color palette. There's not as much action as Atomic Blonde, but it's got that feel to it. You know, it's full of old, bureaucratic, institutional settings, with cold office lights make the blood really stand out when people get shot and stabbed. The writing is perfect, and the acting is incredible. It stars JK Simmons, who is surprisingly good in it, Olivia Williams is wonderful, as always, and one of the costars is the guy who played Daenerys's brother on Game of Thrones.

 

[Isabeau]

I just discovered a show called Counterpart. It streams on Amazon, there are two seasons, 20 episodes total. I'm two episodes in, and I love it.

Imagine Loki, except there are only two universes, and they split because of something some cold war scientist did in Berlin a few decades ago. The two universes are having a cold war. The show follows cold war spies doing cold war spy shit, except it's with a parallel dimension, rather than with the soviets and the western world. The spies are all about bureaucracy and arcane opsec rituals. The aesthetics are like Mr Robot, but the cinematography is more stark, with an Atomic Blonde style color palette. There's not as much action as Atomic Blonde, but it's got that feel to it. You know, it's full of old, bureaucratic, institutional settings, with cold office lights make the blood really stand out when people get shot and stabbed. The writing is perfect, and the acting is incredible. It stars JK Simmons, who is surprisingly good in it, Olivia Williams is wonderful, as always, and one of the costars is the guy who played Daenerys's brother on Game of Thrones.

I loved that series, and Simmons is perfect. It really is a must-watch.

 

[Free]

Imagine Loki, except there are only two universes, and they split because of something some cold war scientist did in Berlin a few decades ago.

With just 2 worlds/unis, and a scientist accidentally causing it decades ago, a better match would be Fringe. But that show was more of a procedural. Counterpart is closer to the spy catcher genre in plot.

EDIT: Oh yeah, it's definitely good.

 

[Isabeau]

How did the choice of 'Jeopardy!' host become so controversial?

Handing off of a TV institution isn't easy, but the search for Alex Trebek's successor inspired many fans. We explain where it went wrong.

www.latimes.com

 

[Free]

It all went wrong when they allowed Cheney to pick the winner, and he picked himself.

Oh sorry, that's how the George W Bush administration went wrong (in part). But it's the same thing with Jeopardy.

 

[Veritable Quandry]

They went with the person who (1) is cheapest and (2) is less likely to have other commitments on their time. Their only problem is that they gave the illusion that there would be a choice, setting themselves up for upset fans.

 

[bubblesort]

They should have given it to Levar. My second choice is Sean Connery.

... wait a sec...

Holy crap, I just went to grab a url of the Sean Connery Jeopardy skit, and I found out Sean Connery died this past Halloween! I had no idea. I was probably too busy celebrating Halloween to notice, and I'm sure the news was too busy with the election to cover it much.