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Nope, networked ad parcels were a thing in the early beginnings of SL and banned quite quickly then. Just lookup "Mr. Lee's Greater Hong Kong", which was the biggest and most infamous of these networks.
LOL, networked advertising is STILL allowed in 2024, not sure where you got the idea they were banned. There is a whole list of rules regarding them, but as long as your ad parcel conforms to the rules, its fine

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Advertising rules and restrictions

No one wants to be subjected to unwanted advertising — whether in the real or virtual world. Be considerate of your neighbors and avoid "ad farms."
If you operate a networked advertising business on the mainland that breaks any one of the following rules or restrictions, we will consider it to be a Terms of Service violation leading to disciplinary action that can include account suspension and loss of land.

  • No more than fifty (50) locations containing advertising on the mainland may be owned and/or operated by any single individual or organization, whether through a personal account or a group account, unless you have obtained written permission from Linden Lab to exceed this limit.
  • No more than one advertisement is permitted by any single individual or organization (whether through a personal account or a group account) in any single region.
  • You should consider an "advertisement," as we’re using the term here, to be the common understanding of that term, including any content that explicitly promotes any space, good or service (whether in Second Life or elsewhere).
In addition, advertisements must comply with these requirements:

  • They must be grounded to the terrain, not floating.
  • They must extend no higher than 8 m from the ground.
  • They must contain no rotating or flashing content and no particles.
  • They must not dispense unsolicited IMs, note cards, landmarks or content.
  • They must emit no light sources or glow (full bright is acceptable).
  • Advertising hoardings must be Phantom.
  • Ad content must be clearly General in nature.
  • Ads must not contain sound or temp-on-rez content.
  • Ad content may not be political in nature.
  • Ban lines should be switched off.
All advertisers must make a reasonable attempt to fit in with the local area and to respect the wishes of Residents living nearby wherever possible. Linden Lab can and will, at its sole discretion, ask you to remove or modify unacceptable advertising-related content. If you use alternate accounts, groups or other methods to attempt to create a networked advertising business that extends over 50 placements without express permission from Linden Lab, you will be asked to remove them.
Finally, if a review your land transactions shows that your primary purpose in placing the advertising content is to force the sale of land rather than genuinely advertise, this will be deemed to be a violation and dealt with accordingly.
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I follow ALL the rules, so I'm good :)
 

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LOL, networked advertising is STILL allowed in 2024, not sure where you got the idea they were banned. There is a whole list of rules regarding them, but as long as your ad parcel conforms to the rules, its fine
What do you think why these rules are they way they are today, mh? Mr. Lee's Greater Hong Kong had way more than 50 locations, the signs were typically high, above 10 meters and more, it was rotating everywhere and so on, also often more than one thing in a region.

So while you are technically correct, these are the rules which effectively killed all major ad networks of the past on the mainland.
 

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Is 16m really Eno GH for a billboard? It's my understanding that if even a little bit hangs over then the neighbor can simply return it.
 
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Is 16m really Eno GH for a billboard? It's my understanding that if even a little bit hangs over then the neighbor can simply return it.
Only if the root prim encroaches.

Rolig Loon said:
Anyway... what counts is where the root prim of the object is. If 90% of the object is over the boundary and in your parcel but the root prim is outside the parcel, you can't return it. It's not really on your land. (This is the way that Linden Lab makes Linden Homes have zero L.I., by the way. A Linden Home may look like it's on the parcel that you occupy, but its root is actually on LL property, so it's entire L.I. counts there.) Contact the owner and ask him to remove the object.

LL tried to fix things in 2012:
 

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It doesn't have to be the root prim. I've been able to (accidentally) return builds via partial child prim encroachments multiple times. The verticality in Ukanipo makes parcel borders a bit tough to track.
 
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I have a 12-step program that can break you of that.
Well you see, breaking the rules is why I got banned from the SL forums.
I have only had one inworld suspension for breaking an inworld rule, ironically for forbidden land cutting.
I don't plan on breaking any more rules, that's why i'm scrupulous about following the TOS.
EDIT: Actually I was suspended twice for inworld infractions. The first time was a one week suspension for my decor in my clubhouse on Zindra
 
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What do you think why these rules are they way they are today, mh? Mr. Lee's Greater Hong Kong had way more than 50 locations, the signs were typically high, above 10 meters and more, it was rotating everywhere and so on, also often more than one thing in a region.

So while you are technically correct, these are the rules which effectively killed all major ad networks of the past on the mainland.
Mr Lee was wayyyy before my time, I only followed the rules that were in place when I started buying ad parcels in 2019.

I got up to 47 before they changed the rules on me and made them all illegal. That was okey though, I sold each and every one at a profit.

Now I still buy them, either to use for self advertising, or to flip
 

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Is 16m really Eno GH for a billboard? It's my understanding that if even a little bit hangs over then the neighbor can simply return it.
a 16 sqm parcel (smallest size there is), is 4 m by 4m. My ad is 3.95m by 3.95m, I place each one carefully to ensure no overhand.
 

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It doesn't have to be the root prim. I've been able to (accidentally) return builds via partial child prim encroachments multiple times. The verticality in Ukanipo makes parcel borders a bit tough to track.
I have returned scupted prims where only the bounding box encroaches. Root prim, child prim, doesn't matter, if its over the line back it goes. Now if its a tree that enhances my property as a backdrop, I'll let it stay, but if its a giant rock wall, it better not be over the line even a hair, or back it goes
 

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Only if the root prim encroaches.
I think that's for Auto return.

If I put a root prim on my land and then a block on top ofy neighbor's house attached, I am pretty sure they can just return it.

That is sort of an extreme example.
 

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I think that's for Auto return.

If I put a root prim on my land and then a block on top ofy neighbor's house attached, I am pretty sure they can just return it.

That is sort of an extreme example.
Both.

See if you can get a neighbor to test that.

If the root prim is fully on your land, I don't think they'll be able to return it. Remember, you can link only within a certain distance. Beyond that it won't link or will break the link.
 
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Both.

See if you can get a neighbor to test that.

If the root prim is fully on your land, I don't think they'll be able to return it. Remember, you can link only within a certain distance. Beyond that it won't link or will break the link.
ANYTHING encroaching on your land that was rezzed by another resident you are able to return. It doesn't matter if the root prim is entirely on their property, daughter prim slightest bit over the line, you can return it.

If it's a LL plant rezzed by a Mole or Linden, you can't return it, you will have to put in a request to have it removed
 

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ANYTHING encroaching on your land that was rezzed by another resident you are able to return. It doesn't matter if the root prim is entirely on their property, daughter prim slightest bit over the line, you can return it.

If it's a LL plant rezzed by a Mole or Linden, you can't return it, you will have to put in a request to have it removed
Wiki link please.
 

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Wiki link please.
I don't have a wiki link, I only have personal experience, you can't return anything encroaching on your parcel if they are set out by an LL employee on LL owned land. Knock yourself out to find it though
 

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Basically, if any part of the object's physical bounding box extends past a parcel perimeter, it's a candidate for that parcel owner to return it.
Same link I posted earlier. The feature has to be enabled by the region owner in order for it to work. If it hasn't been enabled, good luck returning encroaching items.

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Some regions use encroachment as a feature, where large "public works" structures overlap privately owned parcels. To protect such content the encroachment returnability feature has been split between regular privately owned content and estate-content that is owned by the Estate Managers. The returnability of regular overlapping content can be enabled while blocking return of overlapping estate-content.