There was nothing passive aggressive about my reply. I was quite direct. If you can’t see how ridiculous the idea of banning a language from Second Life is on its face, I don’t know what to tell you. I have zero respect for the notion of censoring what languages can be spoken. No effort is needed to rip it to shreds. It is a non-starter, no matter how pissed you were. The faux outrage about being sworn at was particularly galling considering you directly called someone an ignorant bitch in another thread.
There were two bits that were unnecessarily passive aggressive, possibly not intentional. I'm not advocating for censoring a language, I'm advocating for ceasing to support it UI-wise and information-wise and removing it's special status as one of the languages a noob can enter SL in and expect to be able to find informative material in to help them learn their way around.
I question why LL continues to support it. And I question why any TPV continues to support it. The TVPs in particular can be criticized, because in order to stop supporting it, all they really need to do is delete a single XML file moving forward. Yes, that could be fixed retroactively, or the XML format of how the viewer languages work could be further modified to make it more difficult to do so.
I'm not even suggesting replacing it with Ukrainian. I'd replace both russian and Polish with Interslavic, as it's largely intelligible by design to be understood by speakers of any Slavic language. Interlingua works the same way, but more so for speakers of Romance languages and people who can speak English. Think of it like a simplified version of Latin. It's a romance language English speakers can largely understand the gist of what is being said upon first contact, which is something they typically can't do.
The languages used to navigate virtual worlds is both interesting and important to me. Yes, I harbor a negative personal opinion about the russian language and sometimes overstep in how I voice this opinion.
If you visit Planet Samuro, you should be prepared to deal with textured signage written in German and French, but not English.
Active Worlds is based in Germany. It's dead now. But I'd expect to encounter plenty of German there.
A German speaker recently helped be solve a particular technical problem just the other day. But it wasn't easy to communicate through the language barrier, despite having knowledge of two closely related Germanic languages.
Going forward in virtual worlds means bridging gaps and challenges involved with largely communicating between Romance and Germanic languages and even between groups of languages that fall completely under one side of the equation. Slavic speakers should be included, as should Finnic-Uralic speakers and speakers covered by other groups of languages. For example, Japanese speakers may absolutely need the UI in Japanese to even begin to dip their toes into virtual worlds, and it is, and they are here.
But why the fuck are we being so supportive to russian speakers? I hold them collectively responsible for the war of choice they are waging against Ukraine and believe they should be collectively punished to some small extent, not tolerated, not embraced with freindshipd, not until the weapons fall silent and the people speak up.
How would you feel if I was suggesting that we stop supporting the Israeli language in SL? It's not supported. I'm not sure that Modern Standard Arabic or Persian is either, though. Modern Standard Arabic by the way is a conlang and it sucessfully used to communicate across numberous Arabic dialects and is a great choice for a SL UI and information support option.
I'm fine with getting rid of English also. I think it would be imensly benifical if people in virtual worlds could and did choose to adopt conlangs to move past language barriers and be more inclusive.
If you put anything in your profile about supporting Ukraine in SL, to will be targeted quite a bit. Most Ukrainians don't care and will put some fairly vulgar statements about russia in their profiles. Ironically, russian is spoken in Ukrainian-focused sims, and while many Ukrainians are of the opion that if you are Ukrainian, then you should speak Ukrainian, there are others who believe they are fighting a war so that people may choose which language they speak and merely encourage people to switch over to Ukrainian in their own time and at their own pace.
After: 'Please speak American!' the next most comman language demand I've gotten, is 'Please speak russian!'
I perfer Swedish. But I'd loved to learn an easy to speak conlang.
My areguement for this is much bigger than 'Fuck russia.' Yes, it's part of it, possibly the part you find stupid. But it's a much smaller part of it than you might think. And yes, I'm brought up questions why English must be dominate before. And I believe Icelandic and a number of other Scandinative and East Asian languages should recieve support, as well as conlangs.
We had to resort to making jokes about learning to speak Icelandic or Klingon so we could ignore your arguments. This is not a demonstration of people taking what you said on board as a topic of meaningful discussion.
I don't want you banned - you're getting better, and when you're not driven by your emotions you make good and informative posts, and I do read them (mostly).
Sorry, I took you dead ass serious. Kinglon is a totally legit conlang with nuanced grammer and even includes a way to mark emphasis on a word in a way that I haven't perviously encountered elsewhere. In chatspeak, people typical do it like THIS, which is grammtical inbred method of expressing tone my option. Klingon has it's own word for marking this tonal shift, which I think is pretty cool. I could also see Star Trek RP communities possibly neeing a better way to communicat if say they were a larege group and English wasn't the dominate language. What if they were half German and half French speaking? Then what? Universal translator RP to the rescue! Hmmm. I don't know. And yet, Kinglon is extremely complex, even for a conlang. But ya, I took you completely seriously.
I missed that…calling someone that is completely unacceptable and would result in a ban. I can see edited posts, if you remember where it was.
I get fed up with all the passive agressive and aregumentative snarky shit sometimes. Now either put the ban gun away or pull the trigger.
Let's face it, a lot of people on these forums are totally not neutral against Republicans.
Flossy not being all to neutral against Russia, Russians and their language is in the same category.
People can get fed up, when their daily life gets seriously affected IMHO.
True. Why should I be any more polite in my opinions about russia and the russian language than anybody else in these forums is when they disscus how much they actively dislike American conservative opinion? Acutally, this is a great comparison. Also, thank you being understanding about the fact that I was kind of just really mad when I made this post. Somebody made a really nasty remark toward me in-world about Ukraine and I sort of exploded and lashed out everywhere. Ya, that's my fault. But still, my attack on the russian language here is a far cry from the level of brutal that the attacks made here on people like Donald Trump or Elon Musk are. Igen, good comparision. And a very interesting point concerning social norms and forum culture.
I don't have a problem with that. None of us support Russia. However, if you go on a rant across multiple threads and then make a thread proposing to ban Russian language from SL, you will get called out on it. She made it far worse by then coming at me. If it is true also that she did call someone a faggot previously, I have a major issue with that. I have zero tolerance for that. Acting indignant about me using "fucking stupid", which was attacking her idea, when she called Innula an ignorant bitch is the height of hypocrisy.
Ya. You can go ahead and ban me. Your not politically neutral enough for my taste in how you think or how you moderate, and this leads to you comming across as being being very much cogitively biased in how you run this site from my persective. You've raised not a single valid point concerning anything I've said in reguard to language and have been areguable just as big a drama mama here as myself, perhaps even more so.
TLDR: Chris. I think that you a perfectly fine with free speech, provided that I agree with you and keep in-line with the PC behavior and political centric language of the American left. However, I find this to be poltical biased, ignorant, and unsatisfactory. And I will pretty much always comment upon mentions of me made in a what I precieve to be a vile way in an equally vile way with about the same level of disrespect or moreso. Obviously, this is a character flaw on my end. But it is what it is. I don't really give a fuck either way. Acutally, at this point, I would perfer to be banned, so that I won't be able to respond to the inspid what that you people berate me while insulting me in the same breath. That's because too much of my interactions with others here can be chalked up to a collossel waste of time, as I don't like most of the people here. There are a few nice and well-meaning people here, though. Not everybody is bad. I even quite like a few of the people here, even some of the snarky ones. But this isn't the place for me. I need to move on. I'll take the ban, tack så mycket och hejdå.
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