Gachas to be banned in Second Life

[Caete]

So... is this in RL or SL? Asking for my daughter.

Offer valid in SL only. My parcel in RL is pretty near prim capacity.

 

[Fionalein]

In the US, Kinder eggs are vastly different than in the civilized parts of the world. You get your branding covered 2 part white egg. It is 2 parts with one part holding your "toy". The best of which looks like crap compared to the worst of the ones from real Kinder eggs. The other half is covered. Peeling it open reveals some of the nastiest "chocolate" ever created by someone. It has some sort of "frosting on it and two cancerous tumors. I have the bike in the pic below and it is probably the best thing from the USATROCITY Kinders and it comes part the moment you push it.

That is their summer incarnation... when eggs would melt due to temperature.

We got those too - in summer.

 

[NeoBokrug Elytis]

I think what merchants are looking for is a gimmick to make shopping "fun" again. Gacha definitely did that. It also created a 3rd party market where shoppers could potentially make profit by reselling rare or retired items or sets. Which in turn created an artificial demand in sales.

Personally, I dislike gacha because they typically do not dispense copy-mod items. Which is why I also made a system for merchants to make exchanging transfer to other permissions easier. I wanted some of those nice things to use on my estate -- but without copy-mod they're useless to me.

If merchants are looking for a new gimmick, I got your meth right here.

 

[Fionalein]

I think what merchants are looking for is a gimmick to make shopping "fun" again. Gacha definitely did that. It also created a 3rd party market where shoppers could potentially make profit by reselling rare or retired items or sets. Which in turn created an artificial demand in sales.

Personally, I dislike gacha because they typically do not dispense copy-mod items. Which is why I also made a system for merchants to make exchanging transfer to other permissions easier. I wanted some of those nice things to use on my estate -- but without copy-mod they're useless to me.

If merchants are looking for a new gimmick, I got your meth right here.

Casper supported copy mod gachas with their voucher systems, but aside the furries, ferals and 777 motorcycles (yes that is one single mainstream shop LOL) no one bothered to adopt it.

 

[Essence Lumin]

In the US, Kinder eggs are vastly different than in the civilized parts of the world. You get your branding covered 2 part white egg. It is 2 parts with one part holding your "toy". The best of which looks like crap compared to the worst of the ones from real Kinder eggs. The other half is covered. Peeling it open reveals some of the nastiest "chocolate" ever created by someone. It has some sort of "frosting on it and two cancerous tumors.

Eww. They need to make the tumorous parts more red to match the rest of the color scheme.

 

[NeoBokrug Elytis]

no one bothered to adopt it.

I sold a bunch of the systems, and I got a lot of customers of merchants asking about the system. There were merchants out there who used it, some of them rather popular.

 

[WolfEyes]

In the US, Kinder eggs are vastly different than in the civilized parts of the world. You get your branding covered 2 part white egg. It is 2 parts with one part holding your "toy". The best of which looks like crap compared to the worst of the ones from real Kinder eggs. The other half is covered. Peeling it open reveals some of the nastiest "chocolate" ever created by someone. It has some sort of "frosting on it and two cancerous tumors. I have the bike in the pic below and it is probably the best thing from the USATROCITY Kinders and it comes part the moment you push it.

My point was they are not put into the one armed bandits (gacha machines) to be sold on a chance basis. They are sold from the store shelves. I know because I had to *bleepity bleep bleep bleep* after customers stuffed them behind impulse buys and no one else bothered to *bleep bleep bleepity bleep* the things when I was working at Walmart a couple of years ago.

I won't tell you about the rotten perishables I've found.

 

[Noodles]

Last last one would be like Kinder Eggs. In the US they can have the candy or the toy but not both, as I understand it. And at WallyWorld they are not in machines. They sit on the shelves.

Unless they changed it, there is a toy and candy, but the toy can't be in the candy like other countries.

The meme in toy communities is this is because Americans are dumb and will eat the toy.

 

[Soen Eber]

I think the concern is not about Kinder, so much, as what would follow, and inevitably some kid would choke to death on something the dollar store buys from a Maylasian supplier with subcontractors who hire sub-sub-contractors.

Says a lot about the American regulatory system, doesn't it? They can't trust their own system because it is so massively underfunded and they need massive sledgehammers because they know a more graduated system would get abused.

 

[Noodles]

Casper supported copy mod gachas with their voucher systems, but aside the furries, ferals and 777 motorcycles (yes that is one single mainstream shop LOL) no one bothered to adopt it.

I had a Gotcha Go-kart that I turned into a copy-mod version using something like that.

I don't buy a lot of Gotcha items unless it's something like that Go-kart, where I don't care what color it is I just want a cool Go-kart.

 

[bubblesort]

I hate the way it's being done, because I don't think gachas are gambling, but at the same time, I'm not gonna complain about this, because gachas are obnoxious as hell. I just wish they would ban gachas for being stupid, rather than for being gambling.

 

[bubblesort]

I think the concern is not about Kinder, so much, as what would follow, and inevitably some kid would choke to death on something the dollar store buys from a Maylasian supplier with subcontractors who hire sub-sub-contractors.

Says a lot about the American regulatory system, doesn't it? They can't trust their own system because it is so massively underfunded and they need massive sledgehammers because they know a more graduated system would get abused.

From what I hear, kinder got banned for not bribing... erm... I mean... contributing to as many political campaigns as Hershey's. Choking hazard is a lame excuse, but it's enough to make the regulation stick. Regulators can't come up with excuses to ban other Cadbury's products, but if they could, they would. The fact that they can't is what causes Hersheys and Cadburys to come up with non-compete agreements, which make it hard to get Cadburys in America, sometimes. Someday, one will probably buy out the other, and have a nice, big conglomerate, so kinder eggs will be legalized.

 

[Spirits Rising]

Unless they changed it, there is a toy and candy, but the toy can't be in the candy like other countries.

The meme in toy communities is this is because Americans are dumb and will eat the toy.

I think the concern is not about Kinder, so much, as what would follow, and inevitably some kid would choke to death on something the dollar store buys from a Maylasian supplier with subcontractors who hire sub-sub-contractors.

Says a lot about the American regulatory system, doesn't it? They can't trust their own system because it is so massively underfunded and they need massive sledgehammers because they know a more graduated system would get abused.

It has far more to do with the same mentality behind putting the more "common sense"/"obvious" warnings on some products ("Do not use this Hair Dryer in the Shower" as an example). People are fucking idiots and unfortunately we have a fair few more of the type - here - that would buy and give such an item to a child that is much too young to have it in the first place or buy it and give it to the child without explaining what it is first (if they've never seen one before or are too excited to read the packaging).

 

[Essence Lumin]

From what I hear, kinder got banned for not bribing... erm... I mean... contributing to as many political campaigns as Hershey's. Choking hazard is a lame excuse, but it's enough to make the regulation stick. Regulators can't come up with excuses to ban other Cadbury's products, but if they could, they would. The fact that they can't is what causes Hersheys and Cadburys to come up with non-compete agreements, which make it hard to get Cadburys in America, sometimes. Someday, one will probably buy out the other, and have a nice, big conglomerate, so kinder eggs will be legalized.

As far as anything chocolate goes, Hershey owns the Cadbury name in the US.

 

[CronoCloud Creeggan]

Unless they changed it, there is a toy and candy, but the toy can't be in the candy like other countries.

The meme in toy communities is this is because Americans are dumb and will eat the toy.

Nom nom nom, nummy plastic toys.

 

[Clara D.]

Nom nom nom, nummy plastic toys.

Yep, I have a bad case of guttermind . . .

 

[Aribeth Zelin]

From what I hear, kinder got banned for not bribing... erm... I mean... contributing to as many political campaigns as Hershey's. Choking hazard is a lame excuse, but it's enough to make the regulation stick. Regulators can't come up with excuses to ban other Cadbury's products, but if they could, they would. The fact that they can't is what causes Hersheys and Cadburys to come up with non-compete agreements, which make it hard to get Cadburys in America, sometimes. Someday, one will probably buy out the other, and have a nice, big conglomerate, so kinder eggs will be legalized.

Last I heard, any Cadbury's in the US is made by Hershey's. Its not a no-compete so much as a licensing issue.

 

[WolfEyes]

From what Patch said in the thread earlier today, all they are doing is outlawing the use of the word gacha. The conveyor belt types are in and approved by Patch.

Yay?

 

[Adeon Writer]

From what Patch said in the thread earlier today, all they are doing is outlawing the use of the word gacha. The conveyor belt types are in and approved by Patch.

Yay?

To be more specific:

1.) You must 100% know exactly what you will get, in advance, whenever you click pay on any script.
2.) You can't use the word Gacha.

Otherwise, do whatever you want. Creatively loophole or workaround the two rules above, as long as they are technically being followed, you're in the clear.

I fully expect next month's The Arcade will not miss a beat and be just as -if not more- populated with people checking out what's different.

New look, same great taste.

 

[WolfEyes]

Why did LL even bother? Either outlaw the damn things or don't.

I don't even have the words for how let down I feel.

I should have known better considering gambling is still on the grid they just call it skill gaming instead. They can claim it isn't all they want. I'm not blind or stupid.

Can't have trust or faith in people any more, yet, I still have to have them in my life if I want to stay sane.

I am so fucked.