CPAC Stage Shaped Like Nazi Symbol

[Cristiano]

CPAC Organizer Lashes Out After People Criticize Stage Design For Looking Like Nazi SS Symbol

CPAC's organizer took to Twitter to deny their stage was intentionally shaped like a Nazi symbol.

www.comicsands.com

 

[Kamilah Hauptmann]

Ok.




see what i did there?

 

[Romana]

CPAC Organizer Lashes Out After People Criticize Stage Design For Looking Like Nazi SS Symbol

CPAC's organizer took to Twitter to deny their stage was intentionally shaped like a Nazi symbol.

www.comicsands.com

Uh-huh, they "proudly stand with their Jewish allies", as long as their Jewish donors keep shelling out, oblivious to the antisemitism woven into Qanon and right-seeing extremism in general. They "stand with them" because of any Jewish voters who will vote for them because "they love Israel". They "love Israel" because it's necessary for their End Times myths.

 

[Innula Zenovka]

Uh-huh, they "proudly stand with their Jewish allies", as long as their Jewish donors keep shelling out, oblivious to the antisemitism woven into Qanon and right-seeing extremism in general. They "stand with them" because of any Jewish voters who will vote for them because "they love Israel". They "love Israel" because it's necessary for their End Times myths.

I don't think they actually have "Jewish allies" so much as "allies who are enthusiastic supporters of Benjamin Netanyahu and Likud," whom they value for financial and pragmatic reasons rather than because they're Jewish.

To my mind, they have "Jewish allies" in the same way Vladimir Putin's United Russia party has, in them, "American allies" -- that is, what used to be called "useful idiots" (though I don't think there's any evidence Lenin or Stalin ever used the term).

ETA: Featured CPAC speaker said Judaism is a “complete lie” and referred to Jewish people as “thieving fake Jews”, but he was cancelled

 

[Aribeth Zelin]

I don't think they actually have "Jewish allies" so much as "allies who are enthusiastic supporters of Benjamin Netanyahu and Likud," whom they value for financial and pragmatic reasons rather than because they're Jewish.

To my mind, they have "Jewish allies" in the same way Vladimir Putin's United Russia party has, in them, "American allies" -- that is, what used to be called "useful idiots" (though I don't think there's any evidence Lenin or Stalin ever used the term).

ETA: Featured CPAC speaker said Judaism is a “complete lie” and referred to Jewish people as “thieving fake Jews”, but he was cancelled

To be fair, my first thought is someone found out a black man was going to be speaking and threw a fit.

 

[Jolene Benoir]

Uh-huh, they "proudly stand with their Jewish allies", as long as their Jewish donors keep shelling out, oblivious to the antisemitism woven into Qanon and right-seeing extremism in general. They "stand with them" because of any Jewish voters who will vote for them because "they love Israel". They "love Israel" because it's necessary for their End Times myths.

One word, Charlottesville; the men roaming through the streets shouting "Jews will not replace us."" According to the golden calf that they all worship, those were "very fine people." Proud Boys, Oathkeepers, other allies ALL have heavy, heavy strains of anti-semitism built right into their DNA, but don't you know, again according to the calf, they are patriots, not lawless terrorist groups.

 

[Romana]

I don't think they actually have "Jewish allies" so much as "allies who are enthusiastic supporters of Benjamin Netanyahu and Likud," whom they value for financial and pragmatic reasons rather than because they're Jewish.

To my mind, they have "Jewish allies" in the same way Vladimir Putin's United Russia party has, in them, "American allies" -- that is, what used to be called "useful idiots" (though I don't think there's any evidence Lenin or Stalin ever used the term).

ETA: Featured CPAC speaker said Judaism is a “complete lie” and referred to Jewish people as “thieving fake Jews”, but he was cancelled

Exactly so. The calf (love that usage, Jolene) and his ilk have consistently conflated Jews with Israel. "I love your country.""I stood with your prime minister " and let's not forget "Any Jew voting Democrat is uniformed or disloyal". Conflating Jews with Israel and othering them in the process.
There also the fact that the "rabbi" Pence invited to a Charlottesville memorial rally was a Messianic.
My dad used to refer to them as "the Soul Stealers". Messianic Jews and Jews for Jesus, explained

 

[Beebo Brink]

I've been staring at the CPAC stage for days and for the life of me I can't understand how such a convoluted layout could "coincidentally" exactly mimic the Odal Rune. It's not like it's a great stage design, it's actually quite awkward. So yeah, I'm solidly in the "they did this on purpose" camp.

 

[Innula Zenovka]

Exactly so. The calf (love that usage, Jolene) and his ilk have consistently conflated Jews with Israel. "I love your country.""I stood with your prime minister " and let's not forget "Any Jew voting Democrat is uniformed or disloyal". Conflating Jews with Israel and othering them in the process.
There also the fact that the "rabbi" Pence invited to a Charlottesville memorial rally was a Messianic.
My dad used to refer to them as "the Soul Stealers". Messianic Jews and Jews for Jesus, explained

It also occurs to me that having "Jewish allies" and, indeed, Benjamin Netanyahu's personal endorsement, is no guarantee someone is not an antisemite and fascist -- just ask Viktor Orbán.

 

[Veritable Quandry]

Exactly so. The calf (love that usage, Jolene) and his ilk have consistently conflated Jews with Israel. "I love your country.""I stood with your prime minister " and let's not forget "Any Jew voting Democrat is uniformed or disloyal". Conflating Jews with Israel and othering them in the process.

A significant number of fundamentalist Christians in the US want all of the Jews to move to Israel so God will kill them all and kick off Armageddon.

 

[Romana]

Yep. They have the option of converting first and bring raptured, I think. If they don't, Jesus with his flaming sword sends them to hell for eternity, something like that.
Madison Cawthorn boasts about converting Jews, though it can be hard because of the "Jewish blood running through their veins ".

 

[Dakota Tebaldi]

I've been staring at the CPAC stage for days and for the life of me I can't understand how such a convoluted layout could "coincidentally" exactly mimic the Odal Rune. It's not like it's a great stage design, it's actually quite awkward. So yeah, I'm solidly in the "they did this on purpose" camp.

Yup.

To be sure, there's certainly plenty of people involved with CPAC that had no idea that this was an Odal Rune, specifically the Nazi variety of it. While there's plenty of them who are content to march side-by-side with neo-Nazis, or who are willing to be intentionally blind about their allies who are blatant Nazis, that's not to say that all of them are Nazi fans to the point of being familiar with historical Nazi symbols and all that. And the Odal is relatively obscure as Nazi symbols go - it's not something that everyone will instantly recognize, like the swastika.

But that's the whole thing, and we saw plenty of it in the crowd at Charlottesville; the actual studied neo-Nazis like to use more "obscure" symbols because they think it makes them clever. Either the obscure symbol goes unrecognized completely, which is a win for them, or so few people recognize it that the users can laugh off any criticism as libs being triggered over silly coincidences.

 

[bubblesort]

I actually don't mind this. I like it when assholes identify themselves with symbols. It makes them easier to recognize. The assholes without symbols like this are the ones you gotta watch out for, LOL

 

[Innula Zenovka]

I'm perfectly prepared, now, to believe that someone intentionally modelled the stage on the Nazi rune, but that raises, for me, more questions than it answers.

First, it must have been someone's idea, obviously. So I'm wondering whose idea it was, and who was in on the plan, and when and how the whole thing was decided and implemented.

I mean, did whoever was in charge of designing the stage hit on the idea themselves, and hope the organising committee didn't notice? Or maybe they did tell the organising committee, who thought it was a great idea and also managed to keep the whole thing quiet and have so far restrained themselves from laughing about trolling the libs and getting away with it when the wrong people are listening?

And, whoever had the idea, what's the ultimate goal? Fascists (totalitarians generally) normally use their symbols very aggressively - - that's the point -- it's supposed to be thrust in your face to demonstrate that they can do that, and you can't object. Sneaking in the symbols, even half-heartedly so as to give themselves not-very-plausible deniability, seems to defeat the point, rather.

I don't doubt there's something going on, but I don't really understand what, and why. Though I guess I'm hardly their audience -- I feel as if I'm looking into the fever dreams of some very strange and alien people.

It all sounds horribly like the sort of theatrical politics of performance that Putin's media people stage, only aimed entirely at the more mainstream Republicans who stayed away from CPAC.

 

[Innula Zenovka]

I actually don't mind this. I like it when assholes identify themselves with symbols. It makes them easier to recognize. The assholes without symbols like this are the ones you gotta watch out for, LOL

Yeah, but who needs symbols to recognise CPAC and the speakers as assholes? The fact they've been invited to speak or have chosen to attend tells you all you need to know, surely?

 

[Imnotgoing Sideways]

I'm sure their supporters will find that stage "okay". (-_-)

 

[Veritable Quandry]

Yeah, but who needs symbols to recognise CPAC and the speakers as assholes? The fact they've been invited to speak or have chosen to attend tells you all you need to know, surely?

This is part of the CPAC contest for the "BIGGEST Asshole" award. The competition is always intense. This year could mark the first win for the graphic design department. The Made in Mexico Golden Idol is giving them a run for their money.

 

[Summer Haas]

'Nazi' CPAC stage was actually designed by a ‘liberal’ firm that works with MSNBC

After speculation turned into a full blown conspiracy theory that claimed the stage at the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) was secretly designed to look like an obscure Nazi symbol, the design company that was hired to set up the stage has spoken out, saying the stage's...

www.rawstory.com

 

[Beebo Brink]

Not intentional. Hmmm.

The reason I'm so skeptical is that the rune form is cemented by what appear to be two entirely decorative flourishes: the triangular divot at the very back, in front of the screen, and the square around the podium. If both of those non-functional shapes were removed, the rune would not exist. There are easily a half-dozen alternate choices that could have been made that would not end up with an exact proportional replica of that shape. It just seems so improbable that this was entirely accidental.

 

[Romana]

Any opportunity to "own the libs"

Not intentional. Hmmm.

The reason I'm so skeptical is that the rune form is cemented by what appear to be two entirely decorative flourishes: the triangular divot at the very back, in front of the screen, and the square around the podium. If both of those non-functional shapes were removed, the rune would not exist. There are easily a half-dozen alternate choices that could have been made that would not end up with an exact proportional replica of that shape. It just seems so improbable that this was entirely accidental.

Same. I call .
This article puts it very well : [UPDATED] Editorial: Yes, That Is An Odal Rune | Editorial, News, Paganism, Perspectives, Politics, U.S.