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Denmark pauses AstraZeneca vaccines to investigate blood clot reports

Denmark’s national health agency has said it is temporarily suspending inoculations with the AstraZeneca vaccine after blood clots formed in several people who had the jab, one of whom has reportedly died.
The agency said on Thursday that it had not conclusively established a link between the clots and the vaccine, but said it had asked the regional authorities in charge of the vaccination programme to stop using the AstraZeneca shot for the time being.
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Health agency suspends use of Covid jab but says no conclusive link has been established
 
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I feel that fellow's pain - the record from my PC office involves wwatching my height fluctuate between 5'4" and 5'11"

Like, I keep getting it fixed, but it still changes.
 
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Khamon said:
Day two is grueling but it gets better.
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It doesn't feel grueling - much like a flu shot, my arm hurts, and if I don't lift my arm past a certain point it doesn't get worse. After a broken jaw, side effects from my gall bladder yeeting, and other serious medical things, its just mostly annoying.
 
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Biden: ‘all American adults will be eligible to get a vaccine no later than May 1st’

He also announced a forthcoming vaccine-finding website.
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President Joe Biden just announced that he will direct states to make all adults eligible for COVID-19 vaccinations by May 1st. He also said that the federal government will launch a website on May 1st that will let people check where they can get a vaccine near them. He made both announcements during his first prime-time televised address as President on Thursday evening.

“All American adults will be eligible to get a vaccine no later than May 1st,” says Biden. “That doesn’t mean everyone’s going to have that shot immediately. But it means you’ll be able to get in line beginning on May 1.”
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Unfortunately, the lovely young woman went with the No Name brand and said she was left with a furry growth on the right side of her bosom which severely impacted her mental health.

The young man later mansplained that, No, it was Actually a luxurious breast hair after-effect.

A few decades or so later, humans ceased to exist and the rest of nature heaved a collective sigh of relief.
 
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I finally got my vaccine appointment! It was a fucked up process, I might post about that in another thread... but basically, I had to pull favors from people way more politically powerful than me, and I hate that. This is why corona is going to continue to hurt minorities more. Minorities aren't connected enough to get vaccinated.

Anyway, I have to drive 2 hours to get it in the middle of nowhere on Wed, and I don't know which vaccine I'm getting, and I don't care, either. Here's why:

I found 3 incidence charts, for the Pfizer, Moderna, and Johnson & Johnson vaccines. They all show that immunization kicks in at roughly the same rate, between all 3 options, by the 14 day mark. Pfizer kicks in a couple days earlier, maybe, but generally, if it's been 14 days since your first shot, you're immunized. You still need the second shot to stay immunized! Just, you know... you can probably eat at a restaurant 14 days after your first shot.

The bottom chart is the infamous dick chart. It's a brilliant piece of viral messaging on Johnson & Johnson's part, because any time you can put a dick on data like this, it's gonna be a hit, even if the dick part is confidence interval, which almost nobody reading this chart on the internet understands. The science journalists reporting on the dick chart have the messaging all wrong on it. They keep saying J&J's vaccine is 66% effective. The efficacy rate is 66% after two weeks, but that's misleading. Johnson & Johnson's efficacy rate hits close to 95%, same as Moderna and Pfizer, but it takes 2 months to get there, and the efficacy of Pfizer and Moderna hit 95% around 6 weeks after the first shot. Efficacy rate is heavily influenced by the total incidence rate in the placebo population, and the placebo population had more infections in the J&J study than in the Pfizer and Moderna studies. Looks to me like J&J had some bad luck in their study. That's one of the risks of fast tracking vaccines like this. The data is a lot noisier than it would be in a vaccine that took 15 years or more to develop.

Put simply, the J&J vaccine is every bit as good as Pfizer's and Moderna's vaccines. The journalists questioning it are doing it for clickbait, or maybe they sell more ads to Pfizer, I don't know. The fact is, the J&J vaccine immunizes you in two weeks, just like Pfizer and Moderna, and it hits 95% efficacy in 8 weeks rather than in 6 weeks, with the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines. That's a couple weeks longer. Journalists questioning this are full of crap. Also, efficacy rate is not that important.

What is important is the fact that the bottom line on the incidence charts doesn't increase much. In all 3, it's a nice flat line after two weeks.

So get your shot, and then keep wearing masks and social distancing for two weeks... then go party! Then get your second shot on time.

Here are the charts:



Sources:

Pfizer data came from Yale viral immunologist Dr. Iwasaki

Moderna data came from this FDA document, page 28

The Johnson and Johnson incidence rate came from this FDA document, page 37. The dick chart came from the same document, page 42.
 
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