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Spain begins to ease lockdown to revive economy

Spain, one of the countries worst hit by the coronavirus, is beginning to ease strict lockdown measures that have brought its economy to a standstill.

People in manufacturing, construction and some services are being allowed to return to work, but must stick to strict safety guidelines.

The rest of the population must still remain at home.

Almost 17,500 people with Covid-19 have died in Spain, but the rate of new infections has been falling.




Spain begins to ease coronavirus lockdown measures
 

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I feel bad for them... It's easy to just scold people who break social distancing as stupid, but I understand the temptation to break it...
They were trying to practice social distancing as I remember. What I got out of this story is that their singing aerosolized the virus. That makes a 2 meter distance meaningless. This might be the same article I posted from Yahoo.

Similar principle why hospitals avoid things like CPAP machines or anything that blows air. (John Campbell is out of his depth in endorsing CPAP in a couple of his videos. He's been getting out of his comfort zone recently I think.)
 

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He still looks sick to me.
Excellent speech.
I agree with the still looks sick part. The speech is not all bullshit, but the bit about every body else getting the kind of nursing he got sounds like a horrible lie. I suspect the quality of care is much lower for others. He also ignores the multiple stupidities of his previous actions that led to both his predicament and every one else's.
 

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but the bit about every body else getting the kind of nursing he got sounds like a horrible lie. I suspect the quality of care is much lower for others
Do you say that on basis having yourself been a patient at St Thomas', or any other large NHS hospital, in an intensive care ward or elsewhere, or do you have friends who work there, or what?
 
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I am a junior doctor. In the past few weeks I have seen dozens of people die from Covid-19. I am 25 years old. I’ve been working in the NHS for just over eight months at a major metropolitan hospital. When my colleagues and I decided to apply for medical school six years ago, we knew that we were signing up for a challenge. We were under no illusion that it would be an easy ride. But I don’t think any of us imagined that we would be on the frontline of a pandemic less than a year into our careers.
 

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I've been more or less acting like this is the case since we started hunkering down. Trying to keep the pet food stocks a bit more ahead than usual, just in case; stocking up on pantry staples that we weren't worrying so much about before [I had some dried beans and rice, but not a -lot- because keto], and more just prepping to not travel or work, and not being able to visit my mom.

But I don't know that it will be allowed for most of us to hunker down unless we can get rid of 'fearless deadbeat' and get someone who is actually responsible in office.
 

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Do you say that on basis having yourself been a patient at St Thomas', or any other large NHS hospital, in an intensive care ward or elsewhere, or do you have friends who work there, or what?
It might be his rhetorical style or some other misunderstanding on my part, but my suspicion was based on what he said.

In particular, he thanks "two nurses who stood by my bedside for 48 hours when things could have gone either way ... who for every second of the night, they were watching." He thanks many other people as well and goes on to say that on the basis of his experience, the experience of a Prime Ministerl, "that is how I also know that across this country, 24 hours a day, for every second of every hour, there are hundreds of thousands of NHS staff acting with the same care, and thought, and precision as Jenny and Luis."

I doubt that they were watching literally every second of the night or even if they were that that somehow guarantees the same occurs every where else in the NHS especially considering the status he has as prime minister as compared to less privileged patients. I suppose that could be a rhetorical device or the NHS may indeed be functioning that well.

I do confess that the whole business grieves me. For some reason I have been thinking recently of something my mother said, late in life, about the boys in her chemistry class during World War II. That she remembered their names and how they went to war and never came back. I am grieving. My niece who works in a large hospital here says that nurses at that hospital are able to check on patients once every four hours. She works there. I don't know why she would lie about it. There is a shortage of PPE and the states are bidding against each other for it. Then sometimes the federal government seizes PPE after states receive it.

From watching John Campbell I understand that Johnson lost time in enacting social distancing and talked about herd immunity as a solution where people would die in the process of attaining that. I blame people like Boris Johnson who have minimized the severity of the problem and acted later than they should. The sight of him unctiously praising the NHS--and I'll grant that they deserve praise--while at the same time he almost sent the UK down a path where even the NHS would be overwhelmed is painful to watch.

ETA: I think I'm reminded of what my mother said because of the feeling of helplessness. I imagine she felt helpless, too.
 
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