Coronavirus Updates

[Wesleytron]

My Easter plans were to stay home and eat chocolate.

 

[Aribeth Zelin]

My easter plans were [and still are] to sit at home being a big baby about turning 53.... I don't wanna be 53....

 

[Kara Spengler]

There goes my beautiful Easter plans!

Well, as long as people are 2 metres apart on Ostara you should be fine.

 

[Ashiri]

My easter plans were [and still are] to sit at home being a big baby about turning 53.... I don't wanna be 53....

I don't want to be 55
oops, did I say that out loud.

 

[Clara D.]

My Easter plans were to stay home and eat chocolate.

Mine involve hitting Walgreens the day of for delicious Clearance Chocolate.

 

[Kara Spengler]

Mine involve hitting Walgreens the day of for delicious Clearance Chocolate.

Ignoring the possible virus on them why would you want the watered down chocolate most retailers push?

 

[Clara D.]

Ignoring the possible virus on them why would you want the watered down chocolate most retailers push?

Because I'll eat it and it'll be cheap \o/

 

[Lady Darnk Juniorette]

Ignoring the possible virus on them why would you want the watered down chocolate most retailers push?

Alright I gotta say it...

Chocolate in general, is not the greatest thing ever and is highly overblown.

This goes for "real" (not american) chocolate too.

And I like chocolate but people talk/act like it's vry srs bidness.

Same goz for wine and other things people get snooty and nose raisey about.

Now if you will excuze me I'm off to judge peoples tastes on fried potatoes some more. *Flys away on the wings of my own self satisfaction*

Real answer: yay cheap chocolate!!!

 

[Clara D.]

Same goz for wine and other things people get snooty and nose raisey about.

When it comes to wine, Carlo Rossi or Gallo are my general go to's, but I'll drink hobo stuff like Boones and MD 20/20.

I refuse to drink cheap beer though.

 

[Fionalein]

Same goz for wine and other things people get snooty and nose raisey about.

Funny enough most wine drinkers would never touch the good stuff. I'm OK with that, less demand for quality wines with a high Oechsle degrees keeps those within my financial reach.

 

[Sovereignty]

A great video shared by Eku Zhong.

I haven't seen a lot on the specifics of Korea's response except they have had some success and do a lot of testing. In the video someone from Asian Boss interviews Professor Kim Woo-joo from Korea University Guro Hospital. Kim says in the interview that he was in charge of Korea's rapid response tean for MERS and is currently responsible at his hospital for talking to media about CoViD-19.

A few things jumped out.

• Kim thinks being infected with CoViD-19 does not confer immunity (a controversial question).
• Kim thinks it spreads as an aerosol in enclosed spaces. You could catch it from across a room.
• South Korea has not done a lock down despite the possibility of aerosol transmission. Kim mentions schools are closed but not private cram schools or bars/restaurants.
• Kim estimates that 20% of all infections are asymptomatic.

No one tests as much per capita as South Korea does. One would think it follows they should have the best data. However, not everyone thinks their test is as sensitive as researchers in South Korea claim. They might have lots of data but some of it be bad. If they over-estimate the quality of their data, their conclusions could be suspect.

Seuhult of MedCram did a video on the sensitivity of the test and what can be concluded, Immunity to COVID-19 and is Reinfection Possible? He cites a test sensitivity of 60-70% and mentions that opinions in South Korea are different (minute 3:22). With a sensitivity of 70% then 30% of all active cases could test negative. He also cites as yet unpublished research on rhesus monkeys that indicates reinfection in monkeys is not possible. Seuhult goes on to acknowledge that reinfections are known to sometimes occur with other viruses citing examples of smallpox. He still goes on to describe these reinfections as rare events absent mutations. He carefully concludes: "It seems as though the virus follows what we normally would see which is if there isn't that much change in the virus, hosts develop immunity to it".

I haven't seen any estimates of the percentage of asymptomatic cases before, so the 20% figure is interesting. However, I wonder if their analysis might be contaminated by false negative cases. If one excludes actual cases incorrectly the percentage of asymptomatic cases could go down a bit. If the sensitivity is .6 then asymptomatic cases could be 12%. We still have a ballpark number though.

 

[Sovereignty]

Alright I gotta say it...

Chocolate in general, is not the greatest thing ever and is highly overblown.

This goes for "real" (not american) chocolate too.

And I like chocolate but people talk/act like it's vry srs bidness.

Same goz for wine and other things people get snooty and nose raisey about.

Now if you will excuze me I'm off to judge peoples tastes on fried potatoes some more. *Flys away on the wings of my own self satisfaction*

Real answer: yay cheap chocolate!!!

Obviously needed a chocolate thread a long time ago.

First time I tasted chocolate from Switzerland I thought I'd died and gone to heaven. It was a gift from someone who had visited there. Went out and bought some US chocolate and YeCHHHhhhh! (sputum sounds)

 

[Beebo Brink]

 

[Lady Darnk Juniorette]

My main point is why try to rank or look down on these things with any seriousness when taste is so subjective?

OMG BEEBO WHY?!?!?

 

[Veritable Quandry]

This is how I eat chocolate...

 

[Kara Spengler]

A great video shared by Eku Zhong.

I haven't seen a lot on the specifics of Korea's response except they have had some success and do a lot of testing. In the video someone from Asian Boss interviews Professor Kim Woo-joo from Korea University Guro Hospital. Kim says in the interview that he was in charge of Korea's rapid response tean for MERS and is currently responsible at his hospital for talking to media about CoViD-19.

A few things jumped out.

• Kim thinks being infected with CoViD-19 does not confer immunity (a controversial question).
• Kim thinks it spreads as an aerosol in enclosed spaces. You could catch it from across a room.
• South Korea has not done a lock down despite the possibility of aerosol transmission. Kim mentions schools are closed but not private cram schools or bars/restaurants.
• Kim estimates that 20% of all infections are asymptomatic.

No one tests as much per capita as South Korea does. One would think it follows they should have the best data. However, not everyone thinks their test is as sensitive as researchers in South Korea claim. They might have lots of data but some of it be bad. If they over-estimate the quality of their data, their conclusions could be suspect.

Seuhult of MedCram did a video on the sensitivity of the test and what can be concluded, Immunity to COVID-19 and is Reinfection Possible? He cites a test sensitivity of 60-70% and mentions that opinions in South Korea are different (minute 3:22). With a sensitivity of 70% then 30% of all active cases could test negative. He also cites as yet unpublished research on rhesus monkeys that indicates reinfection in monkeys is not possible. Seuhult goes on to acknowledge that reinfections are known to sometimes occur with other viruses citing examples of smallpox. He still goes on to describe these reinfections as rare events absent mutations. He carefully concludes: "It seems as though the virus follows what we normally would see which is if there isn't that much change in the virus, hosts develop immunity to it".

I haven't seen any estimates of the percentage of asymptomatic cases before, so the 20% figure is interesting. However, I wonder if their analysis might be contaminated by false negative cases. If one excludes actual cases incorrectly the percentage of asymptomatic cases could go down a bit. If the sensitivity is .6 then asymptomatic cases could be 12%. We still have a ballpark number though.

Is he talking asymptomatic for the entire infection period (which I keep hearing as 14 days) or just when the test was done, which is commonly put at 5 days? If the latter the general numbers tossed around [not sure of the accuracy] puts you in the low 30s.

 

[Kara Spengler]

Obviously needed a chocolate thread a long time ago.

First time I tasted chocolate from Switzerland I thought I'd died and gone to heaven. It was a gift from someone who had visited there. Went out and bought some US chocolate and YeCHHHhhhh! (sputum sounds)

Yeah, when you start eating dark chocolate a lot and still have memories of milk chocolate you wind up wondering why people in the us think milk chocolate is so great.

Then for an occasional treat have dark chocolate with a jalapeno in it.

 

[Eunoli]

This goes for "real" (not american) chocolate too.

Heathen.

 

[Lady Darnk Juniorette]

Heathen.

Well I'm not baptized so I can't help it.

 

[Isabeau]