Democratic Party Presidential Candidates for 2020

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Jolene Benoir

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God, do you realize how much you sound like an adult child of an alcoholic?
Oh lawdy. Are you a psychoanalyst too, now? I hate to break it to you, but we've had one of those too. She was batty and destructive as hell, as well.
 
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This is a smear that is utterly unfounded. You cannot go around throwing around charges of treason without evidence. With Flynn, there is evidence. This is just a cheap smear from a sore loser to divide us up even more.
I think the point is that military service alone does not immediately disqualify someone from committing treason, as was the case with Lt. Flynn. Benedict Arnold might be another one to point to in that regard.

I saw no charge of treason against her in that post.
 

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This is a smear that is utterly unfounded. You cannot go around throwing around charges of treason without evidence. With Flynn, there is evidence. This is just a cheap smear from a sore loser to divide us up even more.
Whatever your opinion of Hillary Clinton, she's an incredibly smart and savvy person. She did not make the claims out of nowhere. It is not a smear - there is a lot of fucking smoke there, and she is not the only one connecting the dots about her:

 

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I think the point is that military service alone does not immediately disqualify someone from committing treason, as was the case with Lt. Flynn. Benedict Arnold might be another one to point to in that regard.

I saw no charge of treason against her in that post.
Please make the connection here. The allegation is of her "being groomed by the Russians" for a third party run. The word grooming means something. That implies traitorous behavior: contact with Russians that instruct her to do something that might harm this country. This is criminal activity, the same kind of thing that they're trying to impeach Trump for, foreign meddling.

Tulsi Gabbard is a person who has the highest security clearances one can have. If HRC was actually serious and credible about this, it's not something you'd casually trot out on a podcast, a person of responsibility would report evidence of this activity to the proper authorities in the FBI. But this is a bullshit smear, and the fact that it's being handled through the media instead of law enforcement shows how much of shitty sham this is.

Van Jones is right. This is just "payback hell" for her quitting the DNC and supporting Bernie Sanders in 2016.
 

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Whatever your opinion of Hillary Clinton, she's an incredibly smart and savvy person. She did not make the claims out of nowhere. It is not a smear - there is a lot of fucking smoke there, and she is not the only one connecting the dots about her:

Where is the evidence? What I'm seeing is a sore loser who has contempt for the democratic process exacting vengeance upon someone who protested her corruption. She is smart and savvy, yes, but that's irrelevant to whether or not what she's saying is true. She has made that up out of whole cloth. If she really thought that Gabbard was being groomed by the Russians, why hasn't she reported that evidence to the FBI? This is just an ugly smear to make loyalists hate her more.
 
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Please make the connection here. The allegation is of her "being groomed by the Russians" for a third party run. The word grooming means something. That implies traitorous behavior: contact with Russians that instruct her to do something that might harm this country. This is criminal activity, the same kind of thing that they're trying to impeach Trump for, foreign meddling.

Tulsi Gabbard is a person who has the highest security clearances one can have. If HRC was actually serious and credible about this, it's not something you'd casually trot out on a podcast, a person of responsibility would report evidence of this activity to the proper authorities in the FBI. But this is a bullshit smear, and the fact that it's being handled through the media instead of law enforcement shows how much of shitty sham this is.
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This is a smear that is utterly unfounded. You cannot go around throwing around charges of treason without evidence. With Flynn, there is evidence. This is just a cheap smear from a sore loser to divide us up even more.

A) The post to which you were responding did not assert treason
B) The post to which you were responding pointed out that military service alone does not preclude treason.

If you wanted to discuss your further reservations, that post would have been the place to do it. I realize that you have heated feelings about this, but my response to your post is accurate.
 

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The post of yours to which I was responding:
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This is a smear that is utterly unfounded. You cannot go around throwing around charges of treason without evidence. With Flynn, there is evidence. This is just a cheap smear from a sore loser to divide us up even more.

A) The post to which you were responding did not assert treason
B) The post to which you were responding pointed out that military service alone does not preclude treason.

If you wanted to discuss your further reservations, that post would have been the place to do it.
Sorry. I get that military service is no reason to just assume no treason but it's outrageous to put that out there if you don't have any evidence. Flynn is different. They have actual evidence. Had one said that of Flynn without evidence, I would have said the same thing.
 
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It is outrageous that she can make these claims. And what's even funnier/sad about this is that she went and smeared Jill Stein while not realizing that Jill Stein isn't even running in this election cycle. That's a huge tell that this is just a bullshit smear.
 

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I call bullshit. You know damn well some white women in the media have it, too.
I no longer make distinctions between complicit cool girls and their white dude buddies. They’re all just lumped under white dudes now. I don’t have time to give them separate bins.
 

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Again, important to remember that in this day and age you don't have to be even witting to be "groomed". Alt-right "news" sources and Russian backed hackers are perfectly capable of helping to position candidates that Putin thinks can do the most damage - third party or not. And we know for a fact that they are already doing it. Our own intelligence services keep warning us that they are.
 

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The best part is Tulsi outed herself without reading the source material. Just went on FOX showing her ass and telling everyone who she was based off some tweets.
 
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