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[Veritable Quandry]

I have a suggestion for an alternative recruiting campaign...

 

[Monica Dream]

Without having listened/watched I'm getting Starship Trooper vibes. No, thank you.

There's no way on earth he could produce anything that awesome...

 

[WolfEyes]

There's no way on earth he could produce anything that awesome...

Not that Starship Troopers, this Starship Troopers:

 

[Monica Dream]

Not that Starship Troopers, this Starship Troopers:

I like mine better.

 

[Casey Pelous]

There's no way on earth he could produce anything that awesome...

Speaking of Yes .... at what point, exactly, did Steve Howe start looking like he was auditioning for Miracle Max in a Princess Bride remake?

 

[WolfEyes]

Speaking of Yes .... at what point, exactly, did Steve Howe start looking like he was auditioning for Miracle Max in a Princess Bride remake?

Stop making me feel older than I am!

Yes and Moody Blues were two of my favs back then.

 

[WolfEyes]

I like mine better.

Me two.

It just isn't what it reminded me of. I wouldn't want to live in a stratocratic regime which is what the Untied Citizen Federation was. I don't know anyone who would that isn't in the military and most of them wouldn't either.

Just in case anyone doesn't know: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stratocracy

 

[Soen Eber]

There's no way on earth he could produce anything that awesome...

I wonder if Paul Verhoeven is still surprised by how many people missed the irony and thought it was a great future to live in?

 

[Free]

I wonder if Paul Verhoeven is still surprised by how many people missed the irony and thought it was a great future to live in?

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[CronoCloud Creeggan]

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No, they are not. They are fascist assholes fighting the Bug Menace.
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[GoblinCampFollower]

I wonder if Paul Verhoeven is still surprised by how many people missed the irony and thought it was a great future to live in?

Well yeah.... the movie downplayed a lot of the fascist elements but showed all the cool technology!!!! A lot of depictions of fascist dystopias make similar mistakes.

 

[Veritable Quandry]

That's why people love to cosplay Stormtroopers. The wipe out planets, but they have cool armor.

 

[Free]

No, they are not.

Are you talking to me?

 

[CronoCloud Creeggan]

Are you talking to me?

Nope, just generally, not aimed at you. You obviously know the film.

 

[Free]

Nope, just generally, not aimed at you. You obviously know the film.

Ah. Shouting at the Nazi aether.

 

[WeFlossDaily]

I felt like Starship troopers kind of functioned as sort of insane warning. You could maybe even almost use it to test if somebody understood and could recognize the signs of a fascist military regime-society. As a kid, I neither understood nor recognized any of this, I just felt like something was off. It wasn't until later that I understood that the movie was embracing what it wanted to draw attention to in the most extreme light possible to make it's point.

 

[Caete]

Well yeah.... the movie downplayed a lot of the fascist elements but showed all the cool technology!!!! A lot of depictions of fascist dystopias make similar mistakes.

Hahaha! Did I blink and miss the personal battlesuits? The film was just a remake of any WWII film.
Personally how can this atrocity
even come close to this

 

[WeFlossDaily]

I forgot it was a book first.

 

[GoblinCampFollower]

I forgot it was a book first.

Right. From what I understand, the book made it clear this was an oppressive, fascist regime. The movie really didn't.

 

[Free]

From what I understand, the book made it clear this was an oppressive, fascist regime. The movie really didn't.

Uh, no. If one doesn't get that Earth is ruled by a fascist - or more precisely, militarist - regime in the film, they're either not paying attention, too focused on the good looking stars and cool special effects, or too young when they saw it. Or Verhoeven is just too subtle a director for them (!!!).

Heinlein's book is set up with an Earth run by a military elite, though I'm not sure he would have thought of it as oppressive. He also probably wouldn't have called it fascistic or militaristic, but with his strange views on libertarianism (which he believed he was espousing in the book), I'm not sure what you would call it.

Also note the film's writer didn't even know about the book Starship Troopers when first writing the script. A producer noticed the similarities between the works, and it was eventually decided to buy the rights for the title and the basic storylines/characters, and to garner more interest from the studios.