Thank you Manchin for undermining your country!

[GoblinCampFollower]

The WSJ news made a point of referring to him as "centrist democrat" as if opposing a bill favored by 70% of Americans could be considered "centrist."

 

[Free]

I think we need a Presidential executive order that rewrites the first one to bring coal production to zip by 2023.

 

[Sid]

And that calls itself a Democrat.
He even made the Dutch news with his action.

 

[Soen Eber]

Didn't I read somewhere he is getting paid to sabotage the Dems? Or is that only speculation or "...some Democrats are..."?

 

[Romana]

Didn't I read somewhere he is getting paid to sabotage the Dems? Or is that only speculation or "...some Democrats are..."?

Speculation that that's the purpose, but ExxonMobil are pouring money into his pockets to see that the environment isn't cleaned up, so, same result.

 

[Ryanna Enfield]

Why does Joe Manchin hate children so much?

 

[Romana]

 

[GoblinCampFollower]

Why does Joe Manchin hate children so much?

He doesn't, that is just the relatively acceptable thing for him to pretend publicly. I think his real reason is because the environmental measures of the bill would hurt the coal companies that own him.

Didn't I read somewhere he is getting paid to sabotage the Dems? Or is that only speculation or "...some Democrats are..."?

What I've heard is it's mostly about coal money... but I admit I'm uncertain of exactly how proven that is.

 

[Monica Dream]

Saw this coming a mile away.

The 2022 elections are going to be an absolute shitshow and let's not even start on 2024.

 

[Kaimi Kyomoon]

This guy is a bad example of humanity.

 

[Ryanna Enfield]

There was universal Pre-K in the BBB plan, as well as the continued child tax credit. He was worried that parents would use that $300 to buy drugs because he thinks so little of his own constituents. How Republican of him. So sorry. I should have said, that Joe Manchin hates children and also, he needs coal money to buy his drugs.

 

[Shiloh Lyric]

There was universal Pre-K in the BBB plan, as well as the continued child tax credit. He was worried that parents would use that $300 to buy drugs because he thinks so little of his own constituents.

That and he thinks they'll use that money to take time off work and "go hunting". Yeah, he REALLY doesn't think much of the residents of West Virginia. Even to the point of ignoring the 68% of them who were for many, if not most, of the provisions in this bill.

Wait until the Coal Miners, especially previous Coal Miners, find out that the fund which coverers expenses for their medical care is about to run out, and the BBB plan accounted for that, AND funded it.

 

[Dakota Tebaldi]

Nailed this one. He was never going to vote for this bill. He spent months negotiating things out of the bill in an attempt by the Dems to get at least something passed, but he planned to vote no all along.

Someone's going to blame this on Biden and "the Dems"; but the truth is they don't actually have a majority in the Senate.

The midterm senate elections will be critical

 

[danielravennest]

He doesn't, that is just the relatively acceptable thing for him to pretend publicly. I think his real reason is because the environmental measures of the bill would hurt the coal companies that own him.



What I've heard is it's mostly about coal money... but I admit I'm uncertain of exactly how proven that is.

Manchin founded and owns a coal brokering business. That would be a perfect vehicle to pay him off under the table. A coal seller could just sell him some a bit below market price, and let him skim the difference.

 

[Noodles]

There was universal Pre-K in the BBB plan, as well as the continued child tax credit. He was worried that parents would use that $300 to buy drugs because he thinks so little of his own constituents. How Republican of him. So sorry. I should have said, that Joe Manchin hates children and also, he needs coal money to buy his drugs.

Isn't just job to do what his constituents want? If they will go hunting or buy drugs then that's what he should want.

 

[Beebo Brink]

He doesn't, that is just the relatively acceptable thing for him to pretend publicly. I think his real reason is because the environmental measures of the bill would hurt the coal companies that own him.

West Virginia is a coal state, which is the very definition of corruption. There are no politicians in this state who have not been bought off by the coal & gas industry.

There are no (winning) Democrats here either, at least not what the rest of the country considers to be Democrats. Our Democrats are conservative Republicans; the Republicans are right-wing lunatics.

If Manchin is ousted, he will not be replaced by someone who is an actual Democrat, he will be replaced by either another faux-Democrat or by a right-wing lunatic. Because that's what West Virginians want.

 

[GoblinCampFollower]

If Manchin is ousted, he will not be replaced by someone who is an actual Democrat, he will be replaced by either another faux-Democrat or by a right-wing lunatic. Because that's what West Virginians want.

That's what happened here in Missouri! McCaskill had a very "centrist" voting record. She voted with Republicans literally like 50% of the time but Hawley shamelessly claimed that she was just another AOC who would mindlessly vote against anything Trump wanted. The funny thing is that I know some left loonies who seemed to think McCaskill would have done better if she was further left... like no... it wasn't her it was Missouri.

 

[Beebo Brink]

The funny thing is that I know some left loonies who seemed to think McCaskill would have done better if she was further left... like no... it wasn't her it was Missouri.

Yeah, even if Manchin were to be voted out over this (is he even running next time?), it's not like his successor will cross party lines to vote for a Democratic bill. And no matter how angry West Virginians may be over his opposition to BBB programs that would bring them some much needed aid, they won't vote for a true Democrat when election rolls around. Because abortion. Because fill-in-the-blank that carries more weight with them than all the funding that Dems are trying to provide.

And no real Democrat is going to make it through the primaries anyway. Because corruption.

 

[Romana]

That's what happened here in Missouri! McCaskill had a very "centrist" voting record. She voted with Republicans literally like 50% of the time but Hawley shamelessly claimed that she was just another AOC who would mindlessly vote against anything Trump wanted. The funny thing is that I know some left loonies who seemed to think McCaskill would have done better if she was further left... like no... it wasn't her it was Missouri.

That's their go-to for every politician that isn't Bernie, or maybe AOC.
I think they still think Bernie would have magically overcome Republican obstructions and gotten everything passed, including the Green New Deal, even though it's not an actual bill.

 

[Romana]

Hm.


My guess is ExxonMobil have deeper pockets and he'll give the coal people some BS line and not budge.