Gachas to be banned in Second Life

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Goodbye, Yellow Brick Road...


I'll miss the occasional trip to The Arcade. Wait, there's a gacha event called LOOTBOX? Criminy...
 
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Is the Gorean Gacha still active?
I think they call it vintage gacha fair now. Nooo, I was talking about Gacha Guild - the money grave of the feral and furry comunities.
 

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Maybe they should maintain the gacha devices as they are, rename it all gaycha, and then claim minority and gender identity harassment if LL tries to shut them down.

For more eLawyer services...
 
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Ah, the font of stupid never ceases to flow.

But what about the lower class? Where are they going to go? Will they be driven into more sex work? Gatchas provided an escape from hooking for quite a few people, in my observation, through resales, and through creating the opportunity to make a beautiful home for a very low price.

When you crack down on one form of economic activity in this dramatic way, watch for all the other forms to break out of their channels or re-occur. How many people, if asked to mule for the denizens of "The Silk Road", itself attacked by prosecutors, will be happy to do so? Through information, contacts, reports, obviously, not through the literal contraband. SL is a great cutaway.

Copybotting will likely increase. Also theft of accounts through catfishing. It will be hard to watch.
Apparently we can no longer be high society call girls as the village idiot has spoken. Full disclosure: I made thousands of L a wek in my early days by stripping. I could have made tens of thousands if I had went further and did the "hooking". What I made of years of gacha resales is way less than a week of pole dancing. It also seems she's learned corporate motto speak. "through creating the opportunity" is part of so many corp mottos which mean nothing when examined closely, just an empty phrase.

Rambling off topic and tries so hard to apply rl to sl. So much IF... I'm sure it makes sense in speshul way.

Unlikely. In fact while it still occurs, the numbers of rips happening appear to be far less. Seems the village idiot has no idea what catfishing is (the process of luring someone into a relationship by means of a fictional online persona) and meant to use phishing.
 
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Not sure on your position yet: are you encouraging them to break the spirit of the ruling or just playing the devil's advocate?
Neither, really. I just want everyone to be on the same page in what is going to happen. I want Linden to be fully aware of what’s coming, and give them plenty of time to make a statement saying it’s not allowed, if that’s what they want.

If you want my own stance: Gacha script creators never play gachas. I’ve taken the scripting requests for some pretty abhorrent coded manipulative behavior. If you knew what I knew, you wouldn’t touch one.
 

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Seems the village idiot has no idea what catfishing is (the process of luring someone into a relationship by means of a fictional online persona) and meant to use phishing.
In SL it appears to have developed the meaning of "faking your online gender". And SLers wonder why no one takes them serious when talking to the adults out there ROFL.
 

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Ah, the font of stupid never ceases to flow.



Apparently we can no longer be high society call girls as the village idiot has spoken. Full disclosure: I made thousands of L a wek in my early days by stripping. I could have made tens of thousands if I had went further and did the "hooking". What I made of years of gacha resales is way less than a week of pole dancing. It also seems she's learned corporate motto speak. "through creating the opportunity" is part of so many corp mottos which mean nothing when examined closely, just an empty phrase.

Rambling off topic and tries so hard to apply rl to sl. So much IF... I'm sure it makes sense in speshul way.

Unlikely. In fact while it still occurs, the numbers of rips happening appear to be far less. Seems the village idiot has no idea what catfishing is (the process of luring someone into a relationship by means of a fictional online persona) and meant to use phishing.
Yeah... it feels weird to see someone act like being forced into sex work is a thing in video games... you CHOOSE to do it in SL. I'm sure romance scams are a thing in SL though...
 

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"They could just put Gachas into skill gaming regions" is the new "What will this mean for reselling gachas on the marketplace?" over on the official forum.

Trends change so fast.
 
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haha. In that case it’s the quality of the content that is in question. But there is no question that you will actually get the thing you bought, and there was no chance you could have gotten anything else. Everyone gets the same thing, it just is what it is.
 

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If this is true, then LL is making smalltime SL creators pay for what the larger gaming companies are doing to lure players (who are already paying to play) into making more ingame unplanned purchases. I hate lootboxes, and sneer at ESO's crown crate system, where I have seen players blow hundreds of rl dollars for total and idiotic random tat. Jimquisition has a point in his wonderfully ranty rant, but the people he is poking his ire at are certainly not Second Life creators who sell via gacha.

I will be really surprised if I see the removal of the lootbox system put in place by major gaming companies. But I will be happy to be surprised, for sure :)

(The rest of this is general floofery and not to your comment, Aribeth :) )

Disclaimer: after 13 years of SL creation, I have exactly 13 gachas in my store plus one at a current event, and have occasionally at times enjoyed buying from gachas. They can be fun to design for, and I see them as a chance to be a little more lighthearted. I don't hate them (much), and have enjoyed visiting the Arcade and seeing what's there. Most times, I've chosen to not buy from them after looking at what's on offer and calculating the odds. There are different styles of selling via gacha, and some are fairer to the customer than others. I looked at mine today, and decided what to do with each. A couple can be retired or go into lucky chairs. A couple represent considerable work and will be repackaged as full sets. A couple can be scripted to be the fatpacks that perhaps some customers prefer. It's all fine. No biggie.

I do pity merchants who have built their business model on them, and who may have many, and I think LL ought to have given more notice for them. It is a LOT of work redoing vendor textures, and updating everything to other styles of vendors. I see people in that other forum saying oh it's no big deal to swap over but bloody hell it is if you have more than a dozen or so and want to do it properly. The style and aspect ratio of gacha textures to others is very different, and needs a total redo.

It's a bit awful seeing the sneering tone from some people over this. Buy or sell via gacha, or don't. It is not everybody's thing and that is totally fine. I have no interest in rl scratchies or lotto, or 80% of SL gachas but don't have any desire to limit others' enjoyment. I get why LL is doing this, and we will all roll with it like we have with every other change, or not.

I have every confidence that next week, the next thing to amuse and annoy people will appear over the horizon and we will all forget gachas were ever a thing.

Peace out.
I've got maybe 5 machines, one I redid as a set which is also for sale, several are basically just different versions of a fatpack scripted item, which can also be bought, and I think one is a set of similar props that again, should have a fatpack. When I'm not on my laptop and hotel wifi I'll go and see what i've got that needs actual packaging.

As for redoing textures? I'm that person who makes hud-changed items so that I don't need to do a bunch of extra ads, and I don't think my stuff is too pricy even with that - usually 250 to 500 l.
 

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If this is true, then LL is making smalltime SL creators pay for what the larger gaming companies are doing to lure players (who are already paying to play) into making more ingame unplanned purchases. I hate lootboxes, and sneer at ESO's crown crate system, where I have seen players blow hundreds of rl dollars for total and idiotic random tat. Jimquisition has a point in his wonderfully ranty rant, but the people he is poking his ire at are certainly not Second Life creators who sell via gacha.

I will be really surprised if I see the removal of the lootbox system put in place by major gaming companies. But I will be happy to be surprised, for sure :)

(The rest of this is general floofery and not to your comment, Aribeth :) )

Disclaimer: after 13 years of SL creation, I have exactly 13 gachas in my store plus one at a current event, and have occasionally at times enjoyed buying from gachas. They can be fun to design for, and I see them as a chance to be a little more lighthearted. I don't hate them (much), and have enjoyed visiting the Arcade and seeing what's there. Most times, I've chosen to not buy from them after looking at what's on offer and calculating the odds. There are different styles of selling via gacha, and some are fairer to the customer than others. I looked at mine today, and decided what to do with each. A couple can be retired or go into lucky chairs. A couple represent considerable work and will be repackaged as full sets. A couple can be scripted to be the fatpacks that perhaps some customers prefer. It's all fine. No biggie.

I do pity merchants who have built their business model on them, and who may have many, and I think LL ought to have given more notice for them. It is a LOT of work redoing vendor textures, and updating everything to other styles of vendors. I see people in that other forum saying oh it's no big deal to swap over but bloody hell it is if you have more than a dozen or so and want to do it properly. The style and aspect ratio of gacha textures to others is very different, and needs a total redo.

It's a bit awful seeing the sneering tone from some people over this. Buy or sell via gacha, or don't. It is not everybody's thing and that is totally fine. I have no interest in rl scratchies or lotto, or 80% of SL gachas but don't have any desire to limit others' enjoyment. I get why LL is doing this, and we will all roll with it like we have with every other change, or not.

I have every confidence that next week, the next thing to amuse and annoy people will appear over the horizon and we will all forget gachas were ever a thing.

Peace out.
Major game companies have already pulled games from Belgium I think it was. Someone posted about it in that cutthroat thread. lol So it is happening.

EA had to pay 11 million Euros in fines. EA: The Dutch Lawsuit Is a Step in the Right Direction

I found one of the links that had been posted over on SL. Loot box crackdown forces Final Fantasy and Kingdom Hearts games out of Belgium

Anyway, it's been a long time coming but it was going to happen sooner or later. If people didn't plan ahead for it, that isn't LL's fault. It's been all over the gaming news for years now so no one really has an excuse for not being aware.

Over the years, I have had to convert items over from one vendor system to another and from magic boxes to no magic box, etc. It really is not that difficult. It can be time consuming, yes, but, it is not difficult. It's part of being in SL. You have to either roll with the punches or take your toys and go home.

If any of this sounds snide or anything, I'm sorry. It is not intended to be that way. It's an emotional rollercoaster ride for all of us.

I do feel for those who are addicted to gachas, but I'm not sorry I refuse to help you feed your addiction. I'm not being cruel, I'm just refusing to be an enabler for everyone's good.
 

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"They could just put Gachas into skill gaming regions" is the new "What will this mean for reselling gachas on the marketplace?" over on the official forum.

Trends change so fast.
But what about the breedables?!?!?!!!11eleventyone