Vengeance Megaprim Collection

[Anya Ristow]

Are megaprims still a thing in SL?

I once sold (for free) a collection called the Vengeance Megaprim Collection. There are a LOT of items for sale made with them, and lots of builds made with them. I'm curious what came of them when they nuked my account (for nonpayment of premium fee). If you still have them in your inventory, or a build made with them, who does it say made them?

FWIW there is a "Vengeance Megaprim Collection" for sale on the marketplace that is probably a copy of mine. Looks from customer complaints that it was busted 2018-ish, or possibly that people are using it wrong. I once had to do a DMCA takedown on someone selling my collection. That was back when mine was freely available lol.

I'm curious if any content got busted when they nuked my account.

 

[Bartholomew Gallacher]

Nope, because megaprims can be generated with the builtin building tools since years now.

 

[Noodles]

They let regular prims get bigfer don't they? Seems like we don't need megaprims anymore.

 

[Bartholomew Gallacher]

Mega prims are only available because of an early exploit. In 2006, Resident Gene Replacement managed to tweak the viewer in a way that allowed him to create them. Linden Lab never intended for them to be available. The server code had to be re-written to keep them. Otherwise a large prim that overlapped another parcel could not be returned by the enroached parcel owner.

"Megaprims are a mis-feature... a bug that many people consider a feature."
-- Andrew Linden in 2007, reported by Tateru Nino

Luckily, the Lindens made the necessary changes in 2008 and allowed mega prims to stay.

And yes, today you can use the builtin tools or create big meshes instead.

 

[Anya Ristow]

Mega prims are only available because of an early exploit. In 2006, Resident Gene Replacement

There was a second exploit in 2008-ish that lasted three days or so. It was tedious to do, so as far as I know only me and one other creator (I don't remember who it was, Argent Stonecutter?) who created any number of them. I was running my own viewer at the time and I semi-automated it, so my collection became one of the largest and best organized and it was very popular. There are a LOT of things in-world and on the marketplace made with them.

Many of those builds showed me as the creator, because the root prim was one of my megaprims. I got a LOT of "your build overlaps my parcel" complaints, and also "I bought your waterfall and can't get it to..." kind of IMs. I had a canned response to help people figure out who owned the object on their parcel, or who sold the thing they bought, and I always offered to come out and help them. Even after I stopped signing in regularly.

I'm curious what became of those items when they nuked my account. Who is shown as the creator, and do those items even function? What happens when you find one and try to contact the "creator"?

It was sometime after that second exploit the Lindens increased the maximum prim size, and it greatly reduced but did not obviate the need for megaprims. I don't remember the details. I think the maximum size was 64M, and if you tried to resize a megaprim that's the size you got. If I recall. That was the state of the built-in tools as of the time I stopped signing in regularly 2012-ish, and possibly when I bought a plot near the prim library 2018-ish.

 

[Free]

Many of those builds showed me as the creator, because the root prim was one of my megaprims. I got a LOT of "your build overlaps my parcel" complaints, and also "I bought your waterfall and can't get it to..." kind of IMs.

You were a megamenace.

 

[Imnotgoing Sideways]

I just poked around in my inventory and it looks like I had deleted mine when Salt and PrimSearch were active. The few I still have on hand are the old Zwagoth ones (sim sized) and a couple from Gene. Since the 64M update and further LI build weighting, megas have somewhat lost purpose.

That said, banned names have always remained with their creations.

 

[Madi Perth]

I still have a collection that i use to freeze over sims.