Fighting back against spammers and telemarketers

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Here's something else interesting...

My sister is completely invisible to the internet. Also, she'll actually pick up the phone if I call her from a number she doesn't recognize, which means she hasn't given up on answering unknown callers. Which means she probably doesn't have any.

Her husband is a controlling motherfucker, and I'd bet she doesn't have a single thing or account in her own name.
 

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We get "We want to buy your house", too, but mostly calls from Medicare Advantage plans. Open enrollment starts soon so the calls are back again in force.
I get the wanting to buy my house calls all the time. ...AND I get Medicare Advantage plan calls. ...they are poorly targeted since I'm only 39!
 

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I get the wanting to buy my house calls all the time. ...AND I get Medicare Advantage plan calls. ...they are poorly targeted since I'm only 39!
How long have you had your phone number? Is it possible it is associated with someone else by the "people search" sites?
 

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Here's something else interesting...

My sister is completely invisible to the internet. Also, she'll actually pick up the phone if I call her from a number she doesn't recognize, which means she hasn't given up on answering unknown callers. Which means she probably doesn't have any.

Her husband is a controlling motherfucker, and I'd bet she doesn't have a single thing or account in her own name.
So.... not being on the internet and having nothing in your name is one way to avoid scam calls. ....but at a great cost!

Sadly, I have my name on many things publicly.... like my house, bank account, utility accounts, and my big multi national corporation I'm an officer of. ...one of those is a lie.
 

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How long have you had your phone number? Is it possible it is associated with someone else by the "people search" sites?
I've had it since high school! I don't believe it's ever been anyone else's. It WAS on facebook till they nuked me for no reason. I think that's a lot of where they get it from.
 

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It WAS on facebook till they nuked me for no reason. I think that's a lot of where they get it from.
Facebook itself used to advertise the dumbest shit to me, when I saw facebook ads. They used to think I was both a fitness buff and and plus-size old fart with bladder control issues, so if they sold that info to anybody there's no telling what they'd try to sell me. My facebook account now has misdirection on EVERYTHING, including my generation, high school, hometown.
 

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Facebook itself used to advertise the dumbest shit to me, when I saw facebook ads. They used to think I was both a fitness buff and and plus-size old fart with bladder control issues, so if they sold that info to anybody there's no telling what they'd try to sell me. My facebook account now has misdirection on EVERYTHING, including my generation, high school, hometown.
I used to also seem to confuse their algorithm a lot.... they advertised all kinds of stupid shit to me as if throwing stuff at the wall to see what sticks. In particular, I always hated golf, but because I sometimes bought golf stuff as a gift, I got lots of golf ads.

ALSO, several years ago I replied to an add to become a door dasher to make fun of the ad. The crappy algorithms of course didn't pick up that my comment was negative, so it spammed me with all kinds of ads for years to become a door dasher.
 

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but because I sometimes bought golf stuff as a gift, I got lots of golf ads.
Facebook has advertised specific brands and varieties of things I've bought on my bridge card. Zuckerberg is a creepy ass motherfucker.

ALSO, several years ago I replied to an add to become a door dasher to make fun of the ad. The crappy algorithms of course didn't pick up that my comment was negative, so it spammed me with all kinds of ads for years to become a door dasher
I don't remember specifics, but yeah, they try to figure you out by the things you reply to, even if you are mocking them. Even if the thing you are responding to is in picture form. They know what the image is.
 
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Most of my Facebook ads mostly are music albums or clothing (usually pajama pants or dresses) with nerdy patterned prints on them like Pac-mans or cartoon dinosaurs. Occasionally I get weird nonsense from Amazon.
 

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For anyone who is on medicare, I thought that this was helpful: Latest Medicare Enrollment Scams and How to Avoid Them

4. Medicare Advantage Scams
Sometimes people selling private Medicare Advantage plans use illegal tactics to get people to sign up for their plans, according to Iowa’s State Health Insurance Assistance Program (SHIIP).
On its website, Iowa SHIIP recounts the story of a man who called a telephone number from a television commercial for Medicare Advantage plans. He was quickly sold a plan that wasn’t available to people living in his county, leaving him with new out-of-pocket expenses and no medical coverage.
Insurance agents and brokers selling Medicare Advantage plans must be licensed by the state in which they operate and follow a long list of rules. Furthermore, they’re prohibited from:
  • Offering cash, meals or gifts worth more than $15 to entice you to enroll in a plan they sell
  • Charging an enrollment fee
  • Asking for contact information for your friends and family members
How to Protect Yourself From Medicare Enrollment Scams
Scammers often target people they believe are vulnerable to being misled or confused, but their tactics can be slick and sophisticated enough to fool even savvy consumers who might be embarrassed to admit they were victims of a scam.
Experts suggest taking the following steps to squash Medicare scams.
  • Don’t share your personal information. Avoid answering emails from people or companies you don’t know, and don’t speak with telemarketers.
  • Ignore pressure tactics or threats to take away your benefits. If you qualify for benefits, you won’t lose them just because you fail to sign up for a plan.
  • Say no to gifts. Agents are prohibited by law from offering you meals or other gifts in exchange for signing up for a Medicare plan.
  • Refuse offers of freebies “paid for by Medicare.” Scammers sometimes offer free medical equipment (such as a knee brace) as a way to get your Medicare information. You may receive a low-quality device or nothing at all, but the scammers then have what they need to steal your identity.
  • Keep an eye on your benefit statements. Look for anything Medicare paid for that seems incorrect or suspicious, such as supplies you didn’t receive, services you didn’t request or double charges.
  • Report possible scams right away. If you suspect a Medicare scam, call 1-800-MEDICARE to report it.
 
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Mrs. Beebo and I are drowning. Constant daily telemarking calls on our landline phone...
The marketing/spam calls to my house have finally stopped. Today there wasn't a single incoming call except for CVS letting me know I had a prescription ready.

I tried a whole variety of different attacks, but in the end my primary weapon was simply blocking the number of each spam call. I was familiar enough with the robo-voices that I could tell some of these outfits had a whole bank of phone numbers that they cycled through, but we just kept blocking call by call until each robo-voice dropped out.

This took months and our final block list is over a thousand numbers.

Fingers crossed that Incogni has provided a supplemental service by stripping our profile & phone numbers out of data sets across the internet, so new spammers don't find us.
 

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Ugh, there has been a sudden uptick in Door to Door sellers.
 
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Ugh, there has been a sudden uptick in Door to Door sellers.
I detest people who come to the door unannounced. I don't even open it because you can see my computer desk and all from the front door and I don't want people I don't know seeing that.

My front door is kind of recessed, so instead I go out on the front patio which puts me -behind- them. Neighborhood is noisy enough that they don't even hear me using that door. They usually jump when I ask what they want.

 
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I had a guy selling solar just open the back screen door and walk right into my Lanai and then knock on the French doors between the Lanai and the kitchen. I kindly warned him that about 90% of the neighborhood was armed to the teeth and that he should be a little more careful. People are nuts in Florida, even delivery drivers have been shot at just for knocking on someone's door, let alone walking in.

Edited to say that I think that the uptick in door to door sales is happening because spammers are being successfully thwarted by a lot of the apps out there to control them. I know I'm doing that and it's been very peaceful. However, my junk mail has also increased significantly- again a sign that phone calls and emails are no longer working as well as they did.
 

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People are nuts in Florida, even delivery drivers have been shot at just for knocking on someone's door, let alone walking in.
Yeah... scary how many cases there are of yahoo's shooting at people for this then being shocked to learn that's not self defense. Some people feel threatened very easily. Police also have to regularly explain to people that it's not valid to call them because someone was walking down the street.

Edited to say that I think that the uptick in door to door sales is happening because spammers are being successfully thwarted by a lot of the apps out there to control them. I know I'm doing that and it's been very peaceful. However, my junk mail has also increased significantly- again a sign that phone calls and emails are no longer working as well as they did.
Interesting... hadn't thought of that, but now that you mention it, I have noticed and uptick in door to door sales too. They realize they have to prove they are REAL and bypass the screening.

I know some scammers have gone door to door too, but I bet that's a lot less common since that puts them at a major risk.
 
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... my Lanai ...
Woot, new word for me!

Visiting our Aunt & Uncle in Florida my sister and I would spend practically every waking hour in the backyard pool enclosed in a big "Lanai", just didn't know that's what they were called! (AZ/California are practically 'bug free' by comparison, so screened in enclosures like that are almost non-existent out here.)
 

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I had a guy selling solar just open the back screen door and walk right into my Lanai and then knock on the French doors between the Lanai and the kitchen. I kindly warned him that about 90% of the neighborhood was armed to the teeth and that he should be a little more careful. People are nuts in Florida, even delivery drivers have been shot at just for knocking on someone's door, let alone walking in.

Edited to say that I think that the uptick in door to door sales is happening because spammers are being successfully thwarted by a lot of the apps out there to control them. I know I'm doing that and it's been very peaceful. However, my junk mail has also increased significantly- again a sign that phone calls and emails are no longer working as well as they did.
I think I would have yelled, GET OUT! Maybe thrown a shoe… 😆
I hope he appreciated your kindness.


Ahhh, a lanai. In my fantasies I make up before going to sleep I live in a house by some water with a giant lanai, or veranda as I know them, or a wrap around porch.
(Someone else does all the cleaning of said fantasy house, of course.)
 

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I think I would have yelled, GET OUT! Maybe thrown a shoe… 😆
I hope he appreciated your kindness.

He was 6'6 and probably weighed between 250 and 300, and it did freak me out a bit. I started locking the screen door (which I do religiously now because the youngest cat has figured out how to open it). Not that the screen door would deter anyone, but at least if they break it to come inside I'll know what their intentions are for certain.

Ahhh, a lanai. In my fantasies I make up before going to sleep I live in a house by some water with a giant lanai, or veranda as I know them, or a wrap around porch.
(Someone else does all the cleaning of said fantasy house, of course.)
The lanai is the paradise of my 3 cats. I call it my Catio. 🐈🐈🐈 And unfortunately, I now live in a house near a creek with too much water (because of overbuilding in the area it's become a high risk flood zone). And yes, cats are very messy and I have to clean it a lot. 🥵