#BYEDON 2020 - The End Better Fucking Be Near

[Beebo Brink]

That's the fake Melania.

 

[bubblesort]

If they introduced her as Stefani Germanotta (her legal name) nobody would know who they are talking about. Also the Constitution only bans accepting titles from foreign rulers if you have a federal office. Meghan Markle is a US citizen, but has the title Duchess of Sussex after marrying Prince Harry, and that's fine. The clause in the Constitution is more about not getting bribed with a title than that we dislike nobility as such.

That's exactly what THEY want you to think! Those brits are tricksy! They've already snuck a crypto-Canadian into the VP office! Canada is part of the British Commonwealth, so they are like royal subjects up there. Biden is old, he's gonna die in office, then Kamala becomes president, and then she can appoint Meghan Markle as VP, which congress will allow, since she left the royal family... or DID SHE? As soon as queen Elisabeth dies, Kamala can just step down, making Meghan the president, which that gives Meghan and Harry all the might of the American military to fight his father and brother for the English throne, to reunite the US and the UK, beginning his power-mad quest to rebuild Victoria's empire!

(in case you can't tell, I'm being extremely sarcastic, not serious at all... I know it's hard to tell with all the Q stuff going around)

 

[Innula Zenovka]

Trump "forming" a new party. Heh. He'd have no problem leading it, because that involves standing at podiums and spouting nonsense (Trump's vision of leadership). But forming a party takes actual work, which is why this is another idea destined for the trash bin of history.

Alexa, show me an example of "patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel".

 

[bubblesort]

Trump "forming" a new party. Heh. He'd have no problem leading it, because that involves standing at podiums and spouting nonsense (Trump's vision of leadership). But forming a party takes actual work, which is why this is another idea destined for the trash bin of history.

Trump never really was a proper Republican. He ran as part of Ross Perot's Reform party back in 2000. The people from the Reform party, like Trump, Buchannan, and Ventura, went on to become part of the Republican party when the Reform party totally fell apart. They didn't really change what they want, they just became another constituent group in the Republican party, along with the evangelicals and the Q anons, and the gun nuts, and the libertarians, and so on.

National parties are always more coalitions of smaller groups like that. In the democratic party we have Berners, 2nd wave feminists, GLBTQ+ activists, environmentalists, black, asian, and hispanic groups, corporate 3rd way types... who has control is always a negotiation between the groups.

The best way for MAGA republicans to fade, though, would be to form a 3rd party. It's just not practically possible to win power with a 3rd party, with the system we have now. It's legally possible, kinda, but realistically? Can't happen. The Reform party people learned this the hard way, then played ball with the republicans, and eventually won power through the tea party and Trump. Now Trump wants to unlearn that lesson. IDK why. Maybe deep down, he wants to destroy his follower's political power. That would not surprise me. He probably holds them in as much contempt as we do, but they are so useful to him he holds his nose and works with them anyway. If he can't be president again, though, he doesn't need them, so why not destroy their political power, so nobody else can steal Trump's schtick and use them to gain power? If Trump does this, it will be all about pulling up the ladder behind him.

 

[Innula Zenovka]

I think a lot has to depend on how events play out in the Trumposphere and QAnon.

For the last four or five years, Republicans and their party have been sucked into that malign and tacky dystopian alternate reality that Trump inhabits, along with a whole load of other people with whom they have very little in common any of them would like to truthfully acknowledge.

Now that it's all falling to bits, some groups who weren't hitherto interested in Republican politics will go off do their own thing primarily as evangelical Christians or members of militias, or white nationalists, or proud boys, pro-lifers or pro-guns or grifters or whatever, using and following the Trump brand and agenda, or not, according to their particular sets or interests.

Some others will lose interest in politics altogether and go back to homeschooling or bitcoin mining or following football or hunting or whatever they enjoy doing.

I guess the rest depends on what happens to those people whom Trump brought into the Republican party and its supporters who stay there, or those who were previously Republicans but who've now developed identities as primarily Trumpians rather than Republicans, and who hope to inherit Trump's MAGA constituency, or parts of it.

In turn, all that depends on how events outside the Trumposphere are going to play out, with the impeachment and the Justice Department coming after domestic terrorists, white nationalists, proud boys, QAnon, and all the others whom we certainly mustn't call "deplorable," perhaps some Republican legislators and perhaps even Trump himself.

And that's on top of Trump's other legal and financial nightmares -- cut off from Twitter and stuck in his personal hell in which the the consequences of his many catastrophic failures and the end of his presidency will dominate his life from now on -- and randomly disrupting events simply by existing.

 

[Essence Lumin]

Asking for a friend. It is illegal to threaten to kill a president but what about an ex president. Or is it just ss protectees in which case if they lose ss protection for some reason ....

The serious answer to your non serious question is it is illegal to threaten to kill anyone.

Criminal Threats

Even though the Constitution guarantees the right of free speech, that right is not an absolute one. The law has long recognized specific limitations when it comes to speech, such as prohibitions against slander and libel.

www.criminaldefenselawyer.com

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[Isabeau]

Oh god. It isn’t -all - over, is it.

 

[Myradyl Muse]

Oh god. It isn’t -all - over, is it.

He truly is a recalcitrant fibspinner and troublemaker, isn't he?

 

[Aribeth Zelin]

He truly is a recalcitrant fibspinner and troublemaker, isn't he?

Hopefully, it will turn out he was actively part of the insurrection and be removed from office... along with a ton of others, including my congresscritter.

 

[Innula Zenovka]

 

[Kamilah Hauptmann]

I wonder if Trump would let Cruz run as VP in 2024 if Cruz changed his legal name to Cuck.

And if Cruz would take him up on it.

 

[Innula Zenovka]

He's still releasing details for his various imaginary vanity projects so maybe there's still a chance we'll get to see that healthcare plan after all.

Trump orders creation of 'Garden of American Heroes' amid backlash over monuments

President proposed garden amid protests against police brutality that fueled the removal of statues tied to historic injustice

www.theguardian.com

Historian Michael Beschloss: Trump has "no business" dictating who is an American hero

"Many of the people on this list of "heroes" would be embarrassed to be singled out by someone like Donald Trump."

www.axios.com

ETA : Thread on members of Trump's commission for selecting the American heroes

I think this simply means that the old website has been archived, and this is the website for the new administration, but it's encouraging to be reminded, nevertheless. Doubtless this is the last we'll hear of it

 

[Soen Eber]

The best way for MAGA republicans to fade, though, would be to form a 3rd party. It's just not practically possible to win power with a 3rd party, with the system we have now. It's legally possible, kinda, but realistically? Can't happen. The Reform party people learned this the hard way, then played ball with the republicans, and eventually won power through the tea party and Trump. Now Trump wants to unlearn that lesson. IDK why. Maybe deep down, he wants to destroy his follower's political power. That would not surprise me. He probably holds them in as much contempt as we do, but they are so useful to him he holds his nose and works with them anyway. If he can't be president again, though, he doesn't need them, so why not destroy their political power, so nobody else can steal Trump's schtick and use them to gain power? If Trump does this, it will be all about pulling up the ladder behind him.

I'm not so sure this line of reasoning holds together very well. You may be staring into static, forming connections. Not all your posts, just this one is, uh, very speculative.

 

[Innula Zenovka]

 

[Roxanne Blue]

That's the fake Melania.

Putin had to recall Melania 2.0 for a data dump and hard drive wipe.

 

[Isabeau]

 

[Kamilah Hauptmann]

Now I want a goddam chili dog. Damn it.

 

[Roxanne Blue]

Scots troll Trump again.

 

[Bartholomew Gallacher]

 

[Argent Stonecutter]

Now Trump wants to unlearn that lesson. IDK why.

He dosn't care about political power as much as being a big frog in whatever sized pool will take him.