netflix Yay! August 5 Release date for Neil Gaiman's The Sandman

[Jopsy Pendragon]

Say wah?

Kristen voiced Delirium in Audible's The Sandman: Act II. If we get a season 2 and Delirium shows up, it would be amazing if she got to play the part again.

Ah, thanks! I made sloppy search, and didn't notice it was for the audiobook. I went looking because the whiny-baby that N.G. smacked down had mentioned Delirium, I guess they meant Desire.

 

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The Sandman - Renewed for a 2nd Season?

The Sandman - Renewed for a 2nd Season?

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Thanks to Charbel for the heads up that it appears The Sandman has been quietly renewed by Netflix for a 2nd Season.

There appears in the WGA Directory a section already for Season 2.

W00T!

 

[Beebo Brink]

Mrs. Beebo and I bailed halfway through episode 5, when a man started chopping his hand in pieces, in the midst of other gory acts of self-destruction by the restaurant denizens. Up to that point, we'd both been enjoying the series, but not enough to power our way to the end of that story. Soured us on the series, too, on the assumption that this won't be the last time scenes get horror/blood drenched beyond our tolerance.

 

[Veritable Quandry]

According to Gaiman, that is the darkest thing he has ever written. I would highly recommend trying the next episode. It has a completely different tone.

 

[Jopsy Pendragon]

Mrs. Beebo and I bailed halfway through episode 5, when a man started chopping his hand in pieces, in the midst of other gory acts of self-destruction by the restaurant denizens. Up to that point, we'd both been enjoying the series, but not enough to power our way to the end of that story. Soured us on the series, too, on the assumption that this won't be the last time scenes get horror/blood drenched beyond our tolerance.

It was rough...but I didn't have as much trouble with the scene as I did with the first episode of 'Hose of the Dragon". Watching it again with the roommate who's more sensitive to gore, I just fastforwarded over the bloody business in the cafe and we kept going from there.

 

[Ryanna Enfield]

I would say fast forward to the end of that episode to get to the point Gaiman was trying to make. I also found that episode really tough to watch, but powered through to the end, which I found to be worth it.

 

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Do what I did and just stop watching that episode, move on to the next one. Episode 6 is a beautiful one.

 

[Innula Zenovka]

Soured us on the series, too, on the assumption that this won't be the last time scenes get horror/blood drenched beyond our tolerance.

Your assumption is mistaken, Beebo. The rest of the series is nothing like that, and is really worth watching.

 

[Beebo Brink]

On the assurances I've read here, I've persuaded Mrs. Beebo to watch the next episode. As for Episode 5, we'll just skip it entirely. I was so disturbed by the scenes (in concept as well just visually), that I'm not really up to the task of finding the point at which the mayhem stops.

At a theoretical level I can appreciate a writer who may want to explore "dark themes", but on a practical, personal level, facing the harsh cruelties of factual human life is difficult enough. These day I don't have sufficient emotional reserves to exhaust them on fiction. The impact of the Sandman scenes I did absorb was not equivalent to watching a gory (but somewhat silly) zombie apocalypse movie or even the normal body count of Game of Thrones; it was far worse. I suppose it's testament to the excellency of the Sandman storytelling that I devoutly wished I could scrub those lingering images out of my brain, whereas with the Walking Dead my most common reaction was "Ew, gross, who came up with that special effect?"

 

[Jopsy Pendragon]

On the assurances I've read here, I've persuaded Mrs. Beebo to watch the next episode. As for Episode 5, we'll just skip it entirely. I was so disturbed by the scenes (in concept as well just visually), that I'm not really up to the task of finding the point at which the mayhem stops.

At a theoretical level I can appreciate a writer who may want to explore "dark themes", but on a practical, personal level, facing the harsh cruelties of factual human life is difficult enough. These day I don't have sufficient emotional reserves to exhaust them on fiction. The impact of the Sandman scenes I did absorb was not equivalent to watching a gory (but somewhat silly) zombie apocalypse movie or even the normal body count of Game of Thrones; it was far worse. I suppose it's testament to the excellency of the Sandman storytelling that I devoutly wished I could scrub those lingering images out of my brain, whereas with the Walking Dead my most common reaction was "Ew, gross, who came up with that special effect?"

There's a bit of gore in episode 10 at 'the convention' that you may want to skip over. It's not as bad as the end of the cafe episode.

Whoever was adapting the graphic novels to live action should have realized that the excessive graphic/gore content typical of the printed media is there because it's struggling to convey story elements to a reader whose immersive state is more detached. Live action is far more immersive, immediate, 'real' and a little goes a long way. Resorting to the same level of portrayal is illustration media ... is too much.

 

[Innula Zenovka]

I think one reason Episode 5 was so dark is that, in effect, it very effectively dramatized a dream turning into a nightmare. Episode 10 has some gruesome elements, certainly, but nothing like as graphic as Episode 5. It's much more about what's just happened before the camera shot, I think, or what might be about to happen just after.

 

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There's a bit of gore in episode 10 at 'the convention' that you may want to skip over.

Yeah, but they gets what's comin' to 'em!

 

[Beebo Brink]

We've handled the gore and violence of many shows -- Walking Dead, Game of Thrones, Westworld -- but have less and less patience for it lately. One of the reasons I've become a fan of Mike Flanagan's productions is that he's returned to an era of storytelling in which horror is built from tension and suspense, not gore. The Haunting of Hill House and Haunting of Bly Manor are chilling and scary and bloodless. Midnight Mass was bloody, but the blood was integral to the plot and really never that bad that I recoiled out of the frame (as I did often with Westworld).

 

[Chalice Yao]

Just piping up that Mike Flanagan's Horror is indeed amaze. The Haunting of Hill House is just <3

 

[Beebo Brink]

Episode 10 (both parts, the cats and the writer's story) was my favorite of the season. Thanks to everyone who encouraged me to stay with it!

Of all the characters, Lucienne is my favorite. Librarians always make my heart flutter.

 

[Soen Eber]

Started watching it right now. I hate it. I had things planned for the day but ... I ... just ... cannot ... stop ... watching ... it.

 

[Soen Eber]

<lovecraft>The spell has been ... interrupted, but not broken. I am no longer bonded towards my frenetic binge behavior due to a present and temporary lack of source. I dread season 2 where I will fall once again into a mumoring stupor, an ellided dream of dark stygian fantasies.</lovecraft>

Thanks for the warning on episode five, I fast forwarded over perhaps half or a third after reading an episode summary. I wasn't really drawn into it that much: how much can you add to a "too close to the sun" plot?

Episode 1 is my clear favorite, and like Beeboo I am also drawn to the librarian, and I also liked the crow and pumpkinhead. I like how nuanced and realistic Johanna Constantine was. She, and Rose and everyone in Roses' family fully engaged me. I'm happy they had a more diverse cast - it worked amazingly

I understood but was still slightly thrown back by some of the standard comic book tropes, where they punch you in the face to create an impact because they have so little space and time to work with. But I guess they're iconic and it just wouldn't work if they were more subtle.

 

[Veritable Quandry]

The point that episode 5 makes is that while John hates lies and sees dreams as lying, his taking away all of the "lies" people have makes them ugly. Dream confronts him after the people in the diner are all dead, and tells him that lies are how we keep our connection to each other, and while dreams my be lies what they give is hope. John inadvertently created a world without hope, and that is what made his use of the ruby so destructive.

 

[Innula Zenovka]

 

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The 2nd and final season is coming soon.


It'll be split into 2 volumes, V1 releases July 3, V2 on July 24.

(Edit: Where'd my youtube link go?!)