Eye twitches at some of the changes and statements. The time compression makes sense, Second Age was LONG, though I was hoping to see Elronds brother Elros Tar-Minyatur, the first King of Numenor. (The star shaped island between Middle Earth and the Undying lands granted to the Edain (Men) who'd fought with the Elves against the FIRST Dark Lord the renegade Vala (kind of like an archangel with a portfolio) Melkor later named Morgoth.
Spoilered even though the LOTR Appendices, The Akalabeth section of the Silmarillion and Unfinished Tales have been a thing for decades.
Though the mention of Isildur probably means it is just before Ar-Pharazôn (Tar-Calion) became King by ursurping the rule of the true Queen of Numenor Tar-Míriel (Ar-Zimraphel) and marrying her, though they're cousins. And yes, the names mean something, originally the rulers and Edain of Numenor used Elvish languages...but as relations were strained due to envying elven immortality, they switched to the Mannish tongue Adûnaic. Ar-Pharazon was the first
Man and Elf relationships aren't forbidden, it is just they're avoided because Elves are Undying. Tolkien himself hinted that Nandorin Elves (they didn't see the light of Aman/Undying lands), and men might have intermarried more than the Eldar (Vanyar, Noldor, Sindar) and the Edain of Beleriand
Harfoots ARE Hobbits, just one of the "strains" of them. Hobbits probably called themselves something like "holbytla" at the time. Though any hobbit explorers west of the Misty Mountains should probably be Fallohides, not Harfoots. The Stoors (Smeagol's people) still lived in the Gladden fields near the River Anduin. If you played older versions of D&D Hairyfeet, Tallfellow and Stout halfings are based on the Harfoots, Fallohides and Stoors respectively.
The Elven king in Lindon at this time would have been the High King of the Noldor, Ereinion Gil-Galad. He's the Elf guy with the spear in the prologue of Fellowship. Elrond being his herald/assistant. The Noldor Celebrimbor ruled in Eregion, which is near the west gate of Moria and why the west gate used an elven word for entry. Noldor and Durin's folk of Moria got along fairly well. Celebrimbor was a descendant of Feanor, the guy who triggered the whole mess in the first place when he made the Silmarils, which were stolen by Morgoth, the Maia (the Valar's junior angel types) Saurons (Mairon) eventual boss.
Three Rings for the Elven Kings under the sky
Seven for the Dwarf Lords in their halls of stone
Nine for the Mortal Men doomed to die
One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne.
One Ring to Rule them all, One ring to find them
One Ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them.
Eye twitches at some of the changes and statements. The time compression makes sense, Second Age was LONG, though I was hoping to see Elronds brother Elros Tar-Minyatur, the first King of Numenor. (The star shaped island between Middle Earth and the Undying lands granted to the Edain (Men) who'd fought with the Elves against the FIRST Dark Lord the renegade Vala (kind of like an archangel with a portfolio) Melkor later named Morgoth.
Spoilered even though the LOTR Appendices, The Akalabeth section of the Silmarillion and Unfinished Tales have been a thing for decades.
Though the mention of Isildur probably means it is just before Ar-Pharazôn (Tar-Calion) became King by ursurping the rule of the true Queen of Numenor Tar-Míriel (Ar-Zimraphel) and marrying her, though they're cousins. And yes, the names mean something, originally the rulers and Edain of Numenor used Elvish languages...but as relations were strained due to envying elven immortality, they switched to the Mannish tongue Adûnaic. Ar-Pharazon was the first
Man and Elf relationships aren't forbidden, it is just they're avoided because Elves are Undying. Tolkien himself hinted that Nandorin Elves (they didn't see the light of Aman/Undying lands), and men might have intermarried more than the Eldar (Vanyar, Noldor, Sindar) and the Edain of Beleriand
Harfoots ARE Hobbits, just one of the "strains" of them. Hobbits probably called themselves something like "holbytla" at the time. Though any hobbit explorers west of the Misty Mountains should probably be Fallohides, not Harfoots. The Stoors (Smeagol's people) still lived in the Gladden fields near the River Anduin. If you played older versions of D&D Hairyfeet, Tallfellow and Stout halfings are based on the Harfoots, Fallohides and Stoors respectively.
The Elven king in Lindon at this time would have been the High King of the Noldor, Ereinion Gil-Galad. He's the Elf guy with the spear in the prologue of Fellowship. Elrond being his herald/assistant. The Noldor Celebrimbor ruled in Eregion, which is near the west gate of Moria and why the west gate used an elven word for entry. Noldor and Durin's folk of Moria got along fairly well. Celebrimbor was a descendant of Feanor, the guy who triggered the whole mess in the first place when he made the Silmarils, which were stolen by Morgoth, the Maia (the Valar's junior angel types) Saurons (Mairon) eventual boss.
Three Rings for the Elven Kings under the sky
Seven for the Dwarf Lords in their halls of stone
Nine for the Mortal Men doomed to die
One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne.
One Ring to Rule them all, One ring to find them
One Ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them.
I get you. I feel the same about super heroes and star wars, etc. And we could say the same about star trek. I guess it depends on people's preferences.
I have tried to get through the Silmarillion a few times.
I just can't.
One, its not really a story. Its basically a history book/The Bible of Middle Earth.
Two, I can't get over that every single time someone is i troduced, they get like 10 different fancy names because all the races and people and eras know them by different names. And every one is the greatest and most glorious whatever they are that ever was.
I actually got kind of excited when Galadriel was mentioned at once point because it was like "Oh hey! I know that name!" I think maybe I recognized her husband being mentioned too.
I am looking forward to the show myself, in general.
I don't know if this series takes from it, but I can only imagine if they do, they would have to do it like they do with Bible films: Stick to the basic plot, and take a lot of leeway on the story points
This, because there's still tons of material in The Silmarillion, the LOTR appendices, and Unfinished Tales. Not even mentioning the "History of Middle Earth" series
This series probably covers "Of the Rings of Power" and "The Akallabeth" chapters of The Silmarillion, with perhaps flashbacks to the First Age since One of the Two Trees of Valinor was shown. It was the golden one so it was Laurelin, and yes, I knew that without looking it up.
Two, I can't get over that every single time someone is i troduced, they get like 10 different fancy names because all the races and people and eras know them by different names.
Tolkien loved languages. You might say his stories exist so that he had a place to put his invented languages in.
I actually got kind of excited when Galadriel was mentioned at once point because it was like "Oh hey! I know that name!" I think maybe I recognized her husband being mentioned too.
Ah, but do you know her OTHER names. Mwah ha ha ha. Nerwen, Artanis, Alatariel, and I only had to look up the spelling of the last one. Also some of the Nandorin elves call her Galadhriel...notice the "d", because then it means "Lady of the Trees" in their dialect.
I am looking forward to the show myself, in general.
I don't know if this series takes from it, but I can only imagine if they do, they would have to do it like they do with Bible films: Stick to the basic plot, and take a lot of leeway on the story points
Yep, since the Second Age is thousands of years long and it was over a millenia between the forging of the Rings of Power (SA 1500) and the Downfall of Numenor (SA 3319). I had to look up the dates.[/QUOTE]
This series probably covers "Of the Rings of Power" and "The Akallabeth" chapters of The Silmarillion, with perhaps flashbacks to the First Age since One of the Two Trees of Valinor was shown.
This, because there's still tons of material in The Silmarillion, the LOTR appendices, and Unfinished Tales. Not even mentioning the "History of Middle Earth" series
