Now Christian Nationalists are coming for equal marriage: campaign to overturn Obergefell

[GoblinCampFollower]

Eh, the article makes some good points but I am not sure it quite gets the idea of calling Trump, or MAGA as being "un-christian."

Sure, there may be some insider types who push it in the way mentiomed in the article, but I think most people who say Trump is un-christian would say it about say, how he treats Ilhan Omar, and other examples there.

Its people who are not Christians, and more often, liberal athiestz, saying it so maybe the MAGA Christians willnsee how stupid they are for treating Trump as the second coming.

I think the core problem with what is presented in the article is it way underestimates just how many athiests there are saying these comments.

These people would be saying Trump was "un-Jewish" or "un-Muslim" or "un-Whayever" if there was a parrallell situation where such applied. Hell if he and MAGA were openly athiest and they pushed a strongly religious leaning agenda anyway, people would probably call them un-athiest.

People aren't really saying it for the effect of "Trump should be more Chrisrian", they are saying to say "Trump is a fucking hypocrite... again..." but un a manner that might (but probably won't) appeal to the MAGA Cult, who is heavily Christian. They will blow off calling him classless or a hypocrite or deplorable, etc.

I think it's very fair to point out specific parts of the bible that Christian Nationalists are blatantly ignoring, so I get where you're coming from. I'm also pretty confident Trump is not a true believer.... he just exploits actual believers. I do still agree with Innula's core point that trying to argue about whether or not someone who professes to be Christian is a "real Christian" is fruitless and leads into a can of worms.

 

[Innula Zenovka]

People aren't really saying it for the effect of "Trump should be more Christian", they are saying to say "Trump is a fucking hypocrite... again..." but un a manner that might (but probably won't) appeal to the MAGA Cult, who is heavily Christian. They will blow off calling him classless or a hypocrite or deplorable, etc.

I think by now most white Evangelicals have as good an idea of what Trump is all about as has everyone else. The trouble is, they approve, as do their spiritual leaders.

The Evangelicals Who See Trump’s Viciousness as a Virtue

At the National Prayer Breakfast, the president tested his audience’s commitment to Christian ethics.

www.theatlantic.com

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It is odd to see the very same evangelicals who claim the Bible is inerrant and who criticize fellow Christians about matters such as ordaining women—on the grounds that they are being unfaithful to what Paul wrote in one of his Epistles, an interpretation that many biblical scholars dispute—dismiss Jesus’s most famous sermon. For these Christians, the teachings of the son of God take a back seat to the pronouncements of the king of Mar-a-Lago.

Much of today’s evangelical world sees Trump’s viciousness not as a vice but as a virtue, so long as it is employed against those they perceive as their enemies, against those whom they resent and for whom they have a seething hatred. Unless you’ve spent time in the evangelical world, fully appreciating the level of antipathy that exists toward Democrats and progressives is difficult. The only thing that exceeds it is the loathing reserved for the Christians and conservatives who broke with Trump because their commitment to their faith, and to cherished moral truths, required them to speak out against him.