How Elon Musk Helped Steal The 2024 Election

[Cristiano]

This is long, exquisitely documented thread from Twitter showing how the 2024 election was stolen in plain sight. I used a thread rollup site to pull it all together in readable format:

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@ThisWillHold: 🧵Musk's partnership w/U.S. election security company, and the Nov 5 election This began in 2022 as "digging," when Musk launched his bid to purchase Twitter at $20B over value, just 49 days after Puti...…

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It is terrifying and maddening. We all knew there was no way he legitimately won.

 

[Ellie]

This is long, exquisitely documented thread from Twitter showing how the 2024 election was stolen in plain sight. I used a thread rollup site to pull it all together in readable format:

Thread by @kate on Thread Reader App

@ThisWillHold: 🧵Musk's partnership w/U.S. election security company, and the Nov 5 election This began in 2022 as "digging," when Musk launched his bid to purchase Twitter at $20B over value, just 49 days after Puti...…

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It is terrifying and maddening. We all knew there was no way he legitimately won.

And weirdly enough, I am watching Scandal Season 2, Episode 7.

 

[Innula Zenovka]

It's all a bit speculative though. I mean, nowhere does the thread actually say "The declared result in such-and-such a place was X. We say the actual votes cast amounted to more like Y, and this is how we say Musk and his co-conspirators caused the results to switch."

Arguments like

- Nov-Dec: Statistically ABSURD down
ballot data is recorded ONLY in the
swing states, and NOT on mail-in
ballots in the swing states

VP Harris *supposedly* had “policy issues” but only in the swing states, and only with the in-person voters?

tell us nothing, to my mind, since people who make the initial choice to register to vote by post will typically be far more sure of their voting choices than those who vote in person. At least that's how it works here -- the Labour Party, of which I'm a member, encourages supporters to vote by post since, if we're sure of our voting preferences in advance (as am I) there's no point in waiting for election day, and voting by post means there's no risk of not making it to the polling station on the day.

People who vote on the day, in other words, are likely to comprise a different, less committed, sample than those who vote by post. Their choice is also, by definition, more capable of being swayed by last-minute events and political advertising than are the choices of those who cast their ballots before the last minute,

To my mind, the result can far more easily be explained by Musk's financial contributions to Trump's campaign, and by his control of Twitter X than by unspecified electronic machinations at the ballot box.

 

[Bartholomew Gallacher]

This is long, exquisitely documented thread from Twitter showing how the 2024 election was stolen in plain sight. I used a thread rollup site to pull it all together in readable format:

Thread by @kate on Thread Reader App

@ThisWillHold: 🧵Musk's partnership w/U.S. election security company, and the Nov 5 election This began in 2022 as "digging," when Musk launched his bid to purchase Twitter at $20B over value, just 49 days after Puti...…

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It is terrifying and maddening. We all knew there was no way he legitimately won.

Mh well the idea that the 2024 election was rigged and fraud is not new. Greg Palast already wrote about it on 24th of Jan, giving many facts on how and details on where and how much. Trump Lost. Vote Suppression Won.

This Twitter thread is a little bit too wishy washy on some points for me. For example direct-to-cell needs modern smartphones, it does not work with every one. Also why should T-Mobile and others collaborate with that?

Anyway: was the election stolen? Absolutely. It is likely Musk and Thiel were involved? Yes. Does it matter? Yes, but the more important task is how to get rid of Trump as fast as possible.

So who is going to order the next truck load of hamburgers into the White House as gift to the Orange?

 

[Grey Mars]

I'd connected most of those dots myself. The whole situation reeks even worse than the "assassination attempt." The only thing that gives me pause is that NO ONE IS FUCKING DOING ANYTHING. If it's blatantly obvious to all of us, then it should be to the people who were in power as well. People who wouldn't even do a recount. I hate being stuck in this conspiracy nut position of having to decide between either the sky not being blue, or that the conspiracy goes even deeper than expected.

There is only so much that we can let go as stupendous incompetence, cowardice, and insanity. At some point someone actually intended the results to happen. Give me back the days when the worst turmoil was simply Bush II being dumb.

 

[Casey Pelous]

... NO ONE IS FUCKING DOING ANYTHING. ...

Honest question; exactly who should be doing exactly what?

Whether they won it fair and square or not, the fact is the Repubreich has control of the executive, legislative, and judicial branches. They now control the FBI, the CIA, the NSA, and god knows what other secret alphabet puzzle boxes. They control the most powerful armed forces on the planet. Even local police forces are generally aligned with the junta. The Fabulous Fourth Estate is scurrying for cover -- real journalism died a long time ago.

What are people supposed to do when they're hopelessly out-manned, out-gunned, out-maneuvered, and out-strategized?

.

 

[Jopsy Pendragon]

What are people supposed to do when they're hopelessly out-manned, out-gunned, out-maneuvered, and out-strategized?

Every action has an equal and opposite reaction. For every oppressive regime that abuses power to strip those it rules, they will create a class of people with literally nothing left to lose. There's no one quite so vindictive as a 'nice person' pushed beyond their breaking point. They'll be solitary, chaotic, unpredictable and unavoidable. The collateral damage will be horrific. The attempts to stop them will be so draconian that it will only create more faster. Until successful and someone else picks up the reigns of power with, hopefully, enough of a clue to try to pacify the masses and bring back order.

I'm all for open resistance and attempting to restore constitutional power again, but they've circumvented it enough that's we can't count on our opposition leadership to make it happen.

But give it time and their abuses of power will alienate 90% of their base, anyone who doesn't directly profit off the 'new world order'. No matter how organized the fascist minority is, once they're outnumbered by a hostile populace, their days will be numbered. Unless they kill us all, in which case, they'll be doomed anyway without a 'slave class' to exploit.

(Rawr gibber froth drool... where's my damned tinfoil hat! )

 

[Casey Pelous]

...Unless they kill us all, in which case, they'll be doomed anyway without a 'slave class' to exploit.

That'll show the bastards! Wait ....

This logic seems strangely familiar ....

 

[Grey Mars]

Honest question; exactly who should be doing exactly what?



.

Well, off the top of my head...
* The non-corrupt judges should stop dismissing the criminal cases.
* Haris should have at least done ONE recount when 2 + 2 started suddenly equaling 12.
* The old democratic leadership could stop blowing hot air and actually slow down the flood of erosion from unchecked executive orders
* The talking heads in the mainstream 'reliable' press could defy their MAGA masters and air actual news for a while.
* Everyone from the gardener to the executive assistants who saw anything could come forward and tell anyone willing to publish. There are a few of those left.
* Fucking republican politicians who are looking at the giant flaming warning signs and cowering in their holes hoping the new masters will kick them last can grow a spine for once and NOT just lock step and seal clap for the emperor's latest invisible wardrobe.

If you want me to prep a list of actions for every single person in the USA and responsible allies, you're going to need to give me a bit of time.

All that said, major MAJOR respect to the civil servants who are doing their absolute best to minimize the damage, either through labor or by quitting. A salute of admiration to all mayors and governors shoring up the legal framework to resist the coming evils. A long hug to every citizen who continues to vote and do what they can to inform others and where possible economic resistance to the billionaire predators.

You personally are not powerless, no matter what they tell you.

 

[Innula Zenovka]

Well, off the top of my head...
* The non-corrupt judges should stop dismissing the criminal cases.

Is that possible under US laws of criminal procedure? I ask because, in the UK, I can't see a judge would have any choice in the matter if the prosecution said they didn't want to proceed with the case and would be offering no evidence. The judge might be very unhappy with the decision but I don't see how they could go behind it.

 

[Jopsy Pendragon]

I used to think that Putin must have video evidence of the mango moron raping a single-digit aged victim or something, but now... I think he just sold him on the idea that between the two of them they'd divide the world. (I guess neither want Africa, and are content to let China take the rest of Asia/Australia) Putin would get Europe, we'd get the western hemisphere. Everything TFG has been saying makes more sense from this perspective.

And the felon thinks that our military will ensure our safety in a 'Three Nation' new world order, assuming that Russia wouldn't find some way to compromise our already weakened and lead-by-morons military to find a way to insert loyalists who'd just end up launching our own nukes at us.

I don't even blame the MAGA idiots anymore. They never had a chance. They're too fucking stupid. They sold our country to russian agents over gender neutral bathrooms and drag queen story hour at the local library. And racism. The only ones smart enough to understand what they're doing, seem to have a nervous energy (rubio / graham / ...) that makes me think that they're supporting trump under duress. While others (MTG, boebert, gaetz, hegseth) are just giddy at having a seat at the table as they burn the whole fucking world down.

The left may be just as fanatical about progress, justice and equality, but we just don't have the organization, the draconian hierarchical authoritarian structure, the willingness to sacrifice our ideals 'for the team' or the crass =wealth= like their side does.

I'm spiralling. I'm trying to make healthier life choices, but it's so hard. I'm looking at where things are going and I'm really sorta getting to the point of "Why the fuck bother, we're so damned far into 'game over' territory." Why not just get comfortable while I can, until DOGE collapses my financial institutions and my retirement planning evaporates overnight in a cloud of cyber-attacks that his techbros made possible by 'leaking' everyone's IRS information.

And it's not like I can stuff a mattress full of $'s, because it seems clear to me that the incompetents in charge are going to drive the value of the US$ right off a cliff the way they're bungling everything else.

I just don't see any paths towards a win anymore, and I think that it's festering into full on depression at this point, the kind where I don't even want help anymore... I just want to be bury my head in escapism until the clock runs out.

 

[Beebo Brink]

Honest question; exactly who should be doing exactly what?

Whether they won it fair and square or not, the fact is the Repubreich has control of the executive, legislative, and judicial branches.

The Republicans play the long game, and they've been patiently setting this up for decades. The loss of the Fairness Doctrine set the stage for conservative talk radio and Fox News that have been brain-washing Americans for decades. SCOTUS was compromised ages ago as well.

If it wasn't 2024 that these forces coalesced to take control, then it would have been 2028 or 2032.

 

[Casey Pelous]

Well, off the top of my head...
* The non-corrupt judges should stop dismissing the criminal cases.

Innula covered this one. If the prosecution drops the case, that's it -- game over.

* Haris should have at least done ONE recount when 2 + 2 started suddenly equaling 12.

I'm not sure what you mean by "when 2+2 started suddenly equaling 12," but in enough areas to make the difference, we got trounced so thoroughly that no recount is possible. Most states have laws that limit recounts to "result within x%."

* The old democratic leadership could stop blowing hot air and actually slow down the flood of erosion from unchecked executive orders

What mechanism do you have in mind for the Congressional minority to somehow affect these executive orders? The only mechanism they have left is the judicial system, and that's going to get much more Magaty.

* The talking heads in the mainstream 'reliable' press could defy their MAGA masters and air actual news for a while.

You're suffering from "cigar chomping hard-boiled editor" delusions. Those editors and publishers are long, long gone. Ben Bradlee's dead. Reporters never had any power in that system -- they're just schmucks trying to hold onto their position for as long as possible so they don't have to go get a real job.

* Everyone from the gardener to the executive assistants who saw anything could come forward and tell anyone willing to publish. There are a few of those left.

There's been a shortage of negative press about the Melon Felon & Company? I think not. (If so, how do you know all this stuff?) No, this miserable country knew exactly what it was voting for.

* Fucking republican politicians who are looking at the giant flaming warning signs and cowering in their holes hoping the new masters will kick them last can grow a spine for once and NOT just lock step and seal clap for the emperor's latest invisible wardrobe.

Dying to know the names of the brave republicans who will turn away from gorging themselves at a giant banquet of power and money that they have been working on creating for half a century. By the way, you'd need a bunch of them to go rogue, not just Mitt Romney (retired) and the quivering tower of moral strength that is Lindsey Graham.

Everything you have proposed would have a possibility of achieving something had we not recently turned into a totalitarian state. Ask yourself; what would those actions, even if they were plausible, accomplish in the PRC or North Korea?

Sorry, but some analog of a "sternly worded letter in their permanent record" is not going to cut it. Neither is the threat of "losing the next election" -- elections can be canceled. I'm not sure what will do the job -- maybe it will be the rapidly developing international humiliation, though I doubt it; that's a badge of honor for these idiots and their supporters.

 

[GoblinCampFollower]

The Republicans play the long game, and they've been patiently setting this up for decades. The loss of the Fairness Doctrine set the stage for conservative talk radio and Fox News that have been brain-washing Americans for decades. SCOTUS was compromised ages ago as well.

If it wasn't 2024 that these forces coalesced to take control, then it would have been 2028 or 2032.

Yes. ...and I think we have some deep, long term problems with how fear mongering lies spread more easily than nuanced truths. There is also the major problem that spreading hostile foreign propaganda in a democracy is "freedom of speech" where people like Putin can just ban any information they find inconvenient.

For now, the USA has a lot of mud in our faces, but far right parties are showing signs of long term gains everywhere... I think many countries are benefiting a lot from not wanting to follow in our footsteps, but I honestly worry that a far right take over will happen everywhere eventually.

I know it's not a fun thought, but I feel like most of the protests the left is doing right now are kind of like prayers. They are just a way to feel like we are doing SOMETHING.

I don't think we have a chance to do anything really meaningful until the 2026 house election. I don't think elections will be overtly cancelled (yet) but I am of course very worried about major voter suppression measures.

I think the best case scenario is Trump crashes the economy hard and fast enough so that a blue wave comes in 2026 and 2028. ...BUT following what I said above, I still fear the far right will take over again eventually. I'll do all I can to stop it, but I'm less than optimisitc.

 

[Grey Mars]

Fine. I give up. Let the world burn. Our grandchildren were going to be dead anyway.

 

[GoblinCampFollower]

Fine. I give up. Let the world burn. Our grandchildren were going to be dead anyway.

I respect wanting to fight, but we have to be mindful of what's actually effective versus what just makes people feel good. I explained a bit of why I do think the odds are stacked against us, but I still intend to vote and donate to good candidates.

 

[Jopsy Pendragon]

Dying to know the names of the brave republicans who will turn away from gorging themselves at a giant banquet of power and money that they have been working on creating for half a century. By the way, you'd need a bunch of them to go rogue, not just Mitt Romney (retired) and the quivering tower of moral strength that is Lindsey Graham.

If this were a 'written for a TV mini-series', then there'd be a big twist... all these MAGA-fearful/loyal republicans bending the knee, kissing the ring would all secretly be part of the same covert secret society. A 'deep state' cabal lying in wait so that when Trump/Musk to do something so utterly and completely egregious that they can all turn on him at the same time, declare them 'Enemies of the State' and send a militia led by the House/Senate Sergeant at Arms out to remove them from the white house by deadly force if necessary.

But it's not. They crave power and will do anything to get re-elected, knowing that if they don't yes-man/rubberstamp with 100% reliability, their own party will bankroll and primary someone more extreme/fanatical/radical/clueless against them.

It's sad. They struggled so hard to cling to power, and now only barely hang onto seats that have been striped of whatever power they had.

 

[Beebo Brink]

Fine. I give up. Let the world burn. Our grandchildren were going to be dead anyway.

See, this is part of the problem right here. You want someone to wave their wand and make it all better NOW!

When the conservative/fundamentalist movements (aka batshit crazy reactionaries) watched the world around them growing more liberal and "immoral", they methodically and patiently laid plans to restore their vision of world order. They didn't expect a quick turnaround, then throw up their hands in exasperation when they couldn't win right away. They just kept plugging at it, starting at the local level with school boards and town councils. They targeted state elected offices, worked at gerrymandering, groomed their judges.

It took decades for them to build their power to the point where they could finally step out into the open and fully reveal the fascist state they had been crafting. Swinging the pendulum back again to a liberal democracy may well take another 50-60 years. It's not going to happen overnight, especially since they are in the ascendency right now. That could change quickly if Trump/MAGA/White Christian Nationalists/Tech Bros have overreached and exposed their agenda too soon, but even so this country won't suddenly lurch to the left. All the forces that led to Trump's election win are still roiling and boiling out there, even if the Musk/Trump/Vance triumverate is removed (which it doesn't look like it will be).

There is no quick fix for this. Pace yourself, because it's going to be a long ride. I know I will not live long enough to see light at the end of the tunnel.

 

[Khamon]

adding that the power behind the triumvirate is Chancellor Lord Vought. If a shifter were sent from the future to mitigate the damage, and I'm not saying that it will happen, their objective would be Chancellor Lord Vought. He is the kingmaker.

 

[Casey Pelous]

Frankly, there's a lot of "quit" on the D side.

D's: "I heard Candidate X said a thing about a thing in 1982 -- I'm gonna have to sit this one out."

R's: "I'm voting for Used Condom-R, because R! 'murica!!"

Good lord, there are still D's bitching about Bernie Sanders.