Why A Former Senior Boeing Employee Will Not Fly On Their MAX Planes

[Cristiano]

Long but interesting read in light of the recent Alaska Airlines incident

‘I’m Not Trying to Cause a Scene. I Just Want to Get Off This Plane.’ — POLITICO

A former senior Boeing employee on why he still won’t fly on a MAX plane.

apple.news

 

[Lexxi]

Most recent episode of John Oliver's Last Week Tonight was also about Boeing. Can only find an article about an ad John Oliver showed on the episode, not episode itself. And that ad won't play in my country.

John Oliver goes after Boeing with a brutal parody ad

"The very least you can do is advertise the kind of company you are in a much more accurate way."

mashable.com

 

[Essence Lumin]

Most recent episode of John Oliver's Last Week Tonight was also about Boeing. Can only find an article about an ad John Oliver showed on the episode, not episode itself. And that ad won't play in my country.

John Oliver goes after Boeing with a brutal parody ad

"The very least you can do is advertise the kind of company you are in a much more accurate way."

mashable.com

Strange collection of countries that video is allowed in (the grey ones)

 

[Bartholomew Gallacher]

A former Boeing employee known for raising concerns about the firm's production standards has been found dead in the US.
John Barnett had worked for Boeing for 32 years, until his retirement in 2017.
In the days before his death, he had been giving evidence in a whistleblower lawsuit against the company.
Boeing said it was saddened to hear of Mr Barnett's passing. The Charleston County coroner confirmed his death to the BBC on Monday.

Boeing whistleblower John Barnett found dead in US

Prior to his death, John Barnett was testifying against Boeing over concerns about standards.

www.bbc.com

 

[Free]

Boeing whistleblower John Barnett found dead in US

Prior to his death, John Barnett was testifying against Boeing over concerns about standards.

www.bbc.com

John Barnett had worked for Boeing for 32 years, until his retirement in 2017.

In the days before his death, he had been giving evidence in a whistleblower lawsuit against the company.

Boeing said it was saddened to hear of Mr Barnett's passing. The Charleston County coroner confirmed his death to the BBC on Monday.

It said the 62-year-old had died from a "self-inflicted" wound on 9 March and police were investigating.

Hrm.

 

[Beebo Brink]

And now:
Boeing cockpit seat switch mishap reportedly led to Latam flight incident | Boeing | The Guardian

Another Boeing jet is facing scrutiny after the planemaker told airlines to check the cockpit seats of 787 Dreamliners following a terrifying drop during a flight from Sydney to Auckland.

Dozens of people on Latam Airlines Flight 800 were said to have been hurt this week when the plane fell sharply, throwing passengers around the cabin.

 

[Katheryne Helendale]

That's it. I'm just never going to fly again.

 

[Argent Stonecutter]

Boeing whistleblower warned family friend "it's not suicide" before death

John Barnett allegedly issued a prescient warning to a family friend before he was found dead, according to a local TV network.

www.newsweek.com

 

[Sid]

How many car accidents have there been worldwide already with your specific type of car?
The answer is: an awful lot, for every type of car.
And we all still happily drive with them.
Flying is safer.
Even with the Boeing MAX.

I've decided not to fly anymore years ago. Not because of safety, flying is the safest way of transportation, but because of the environmental impact of flying.

 

[Casey Pelous]

That's it. I'm just never going to fly again.

As long as it doesn't say Boeing across your backside, you should be able to fly as well as you ever have.

 

[Argent Stonecutter]

And we all still happily drive with them.

For very small values of "happily".

 

[Katheryne Helendale]

How many car accidents have there been worldwide already with your specific type of car?
The answer is: an awful lot, for every type of car.
And we all still happily drive with them.
Flying is safer.
Even with the Boeing MAX.

I've decided not to fly anymore years ago. Not because of safety, flying is the safest way of transportation, but because of the environmental impact of flying.

Well, yes, but - I am much more likely to walk away from a car crash than I am a plane crash.

 

[Essence Lumin]

I've decided not to fly anymore years ago. Not because of safety, flying is the safest way of transportation, but because of the environmental impact of flying.

Maybe travelling across the Atlantic or Pacific oceans is not one of your destinations but I doubt that ships are much more environmentally friendly. I haven't read any statistics about that though.

 

[Sid]

Maybe travelling across the Atlantic or Pacific oceans is not one of your destinations but I doubt that ships are much more environmentally friendly. I haven't read any statistics about that though.

Of course the decision not to fly anymore can limit my travels.
But every destination in Western Europe can easily be reached by car or train or a combination of those two.
If I ever might want to visit the USA again I will fly, I guess.

But I can live with the fact that I will never see Death Valley, The Rocky Mountains, The Grand Canyon, The Niagara Falls and all the other highlights at your side of the pond with my own eyes.

 

[Casey Pelous]

Just noting Sid spelled Niagara correctly, which puts him ahead of a whole lot of USAnians in the Spelling Bee.

 

[Caete]

Amazing how many whistleblowers die from self inflicted gunshots...

 

[GoblinCampFollower]

Amazing how many whistleblowers die from self inflicted gunshots...

He makes a few valid points about how suspicious some suicides are, but then meanders and wrecks his credibility on other nonsensical conspiracy theories like claiming the first lady of France is trans... That's a common them among conspiracy nuts, they have 100% confirmation bias. If they find a scrap of evidence on something, they feel vindicated about EVERYTHING.

 

[Dakota Tebaldi]

Juan covers the seat situation here:


It seems there's a switch on the back of the pilots' seats, underneath a plastic cover, that's used to motor the seats backwards and forwards so pilots can get into them. If the switch or its cover is broken or comes loose, and the airline never fixes it, it's possible for the switch cover to get wedged in a way that the switch can be depressed by someone just pushing down on the closed plastic cover.

 

[Imnotgoing Sideways]

Once upon a time, people didn't fly. (^_^)

 

[Casey Pelous]

Before anybody descends too far into some Boeing-fueled rabbit hole, you should know that in these parts allegations about Boeing doing Something Bad are currently selling for less than a dime a dozen and are available 24/7. That has been true for as long as I have been here. One of Boeing's nicknames I learned when I came here some 25 years ago is "The Lazy B."

It's not what you'd call the highest morale workplace in the land. It's also not where you'd go to top off your mental health tank.