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If Trump Tries to Sue His Way to Election Victory, Here’s What Happens

“A lawsuit without provable facts showing a statutory or constitutional violation is just a tweet with a filing fee,” said Justin Levitt, a professor at Loyola Law School in Los Angeles.


Levitt said judges by and large have ignored the noise of the race and the bluster of President Donald Trump’s Twitter feed. “They’ve actually demanded facts and haven’t been ruling on all-caps claims of fraud or suppression,” Levitt said. “They haven’t confused public relations with the predicate for litigation, and I would expect that to continue.”
 

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Watch in awe as Trump's spirtual advisor Paula White is praying for his victory and battling "demonic confederacies":

Yeah, because actually counting votes is "stealing" the election. Nope, we're going to see one side trying to do that via the stacked courts.

Seriously, Trump is dumb as a box of rocks. He slept through Social Studies and paid people to take his tests. He doesn't GET democracy, the Declaration of Independence, nor the Constitution.

Are we really surprised that he doesn't understand the electoral process? The bigger issue is these fuckers that DO understand it all trying to help him.
 

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So while Trump supporters have gathered outside ballot counting offices in Detroit and Philadelphia to demand those states "stop the count", other Trump supporters have gathered outside the Maricopa County ballot counting facility in Arizona, where Biden is currently ahead, to demand....that, I don't know, Arizona keeps counting, I guess? Which is...what they're already doing, inside that building, but...protest, though! Or something.
I forgot what state it was but don was behind while the count was going on. His cult was outside telling them to stop the count. They do not think, just repeat whatever dumb stuff he says.
 

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As Bronxelf pointed out on a recent Facebook post, there is major hinky interference with the Florida vote. Tens of thousands of mail-in votes are unaccounted for, and even if they're found, it's too late; Florida law will not allow them to be counted if they are received after the election. So still reason for shame where Florida is concerned, but not the reason you started with.
Okay, yes, the state has been tampered with again but...

The local elections - where people chose a cowardly rich white millenial asshole to continue to rep... embaress us with his stupidity is still in office over an actual Navy Veteran. One that supposedly had some republicans in the area supporting him. Again, its possible these votes were tampered with too, but I'd lay serious odds that the tampering was in Maimi-Dade and Broward Counties. And I'd hoped to help turn our state legislature more blueish and we failed there too. At least Florida has a constitutional amendment making gerrymandering illegal, and the courts here have made them go back and draw again, but unless they actually draw our area better, I'll never have a congrsscritter that's decent until we move again, and I don't want to [unless its to my mom's and that part of georgia is even more red than east L.A. [lower alabama]
 

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I was just thinking, I have been reduced to uttering curse words frequently, such as fuckers, dirty rat bastard and so on.

It's just...so infuriating to watch the country that I love reduced to what we are seeing.
 

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One group I was in made someone a 'senior moderator' just to get her to shut up and she went on to do nothing except swing her title around when it helped her. Fast forward a few years and she broke a list rule. I went back and forth a few times with her about it and she insisted on breaking it. I finally deleted the list. I am guessing she remembered who I was when I had the ability to do that.
 

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Was also thinking about who we run as Democrats. Perhaps we should consider a southerner as we did with Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton. Jimmy Carter took Texas, of all places.

Tribalism exists so why not take advantage of it?

Julian Castro or Beto O'Rourke are obvious choices.

ETA: Castro was my choice up until he dropped out, at which point I switched to Warren. They both were good, mind you. It's just that he spoke to me more than her. I don't regret voting for her either, as I strongly supported her, too.
 
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As of this morning Pres. Trump was leading but under 50% in Georgia, and it is looking more likely that there may be a runoff for the presidential race in Georgia. We are going to need to put a statue of Stacey Abrams at Stone Mountain. Also, this just came across my feed:


Georgia is about to get even more inundated with money and political ads. There may be a runoff for both Senate seats and the presidency. I was hoping to be able to go back to watching the news again.... I may need to make a run to the liquor store.

Watch in awe as Trump's spirtual advisor Paula White is praying for his victory and battling "demonic confederacies":

Best reply:
 

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We should have run Sherrod Brown. v He speaks blue collar fluently and won Ohio with a focus on healthcare and protecting pensions.
I love Sherrod. but I think we picked the perfect candidate for this time And To lead this coalition.

Win or lose, we did good.
 

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I told y'all that Michael Bennett would be the best choice. But, literally no one in the world listened to me. That said, I'm still hopeful we'll at least get rid of the dictator wannabe.
 

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Was also thinking about who we run as Democrats. Perhaps we should consider a southerner as we did with Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton. Jimmy Carter took Texas, of all places.

Tribalism exists so why not take advantage of it?
I kinda agree with this, but...

According to a piece I read several years ago, Jimmy Carter believes abortion is wrong except under certain conditions (rape, incest, danger to mother's life), and yet allowed policy to conflict with his own religious or moral ones. So in a lot of ways he was fairly progressive, especially for a Georgian Dem in the 70s.

Castro and O'Rourke were successful at running for and holding lesser positions in locations- Castro as Mayor of San Antonio, O'Rourke as Congressperson for Texas' 16th - that have largely liberal constituencies.

Carter as governor of Georgia...well, I just looked up a few things about his early political career. He won a seat on the Georgia State Senate in 1962 and was reelected in '64, but his first run for the governorship failed. Then he became a born-again Baptist. One might suspect this aided him in his second run at governor in a bible belt state. Also, the platform he ran on was not something you might call progressive (Britannica states he "tacitly adhered to a segregationist approach"). However, once in office his policies lead to him appearing on the cover of Time magazine, and talk of his being part of "the new South." He didn't run for a second term, instead announcing his candidacy for President.

So I wonder how effective a model Carter is for today's Democrats.

On the other hand, Bill Clinton is a very different topic...
 

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Whatever they say about Carter's early policies, the man refused to join his local White Citizen's Council in the wake of Brown v Board of Education. That brought the real possibility that his store (a seed store was part of the farm operation, a position that brought status in farming communities) would mysteriously burn down. Possibly with him in it. It was not an uncommon occurrence at the time. It is also worth noting that the liberal Baptist churches were important at the time in organizing Civil Rights work.