The Great Doomsday Election: how stressed are you?

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Tons of dog lost&found where I'm at. Beyond that I see a lot of offers-requests for handy and cleaning work. The worst post I've seen the past month was someone stating it's good to eat tamales with ketchup. (-_-)

*I wish I was kidding about the tamales...
 

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By the time the flooding happens we will be way, way beyond being able to do anything about it. It's like waiting for terminal lung cancer before you give up smoking.
Oh, it gets better Imagine spending trillions of dollars to "save" Florida in doomed public works programs. I'm sure Elon already has a plan to elevate cities and link them with hyperloop corridors, and turn flooded farmland into fish farms and floating hydroponic platforms. We will be living in a Sci-Fi Starwarsy utopia!
 
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Oh, it gets better Imagine spending trillions of dollars to "save" Florida in doomed public works programs. I'm sure Elon already has a plan to elevate cities and link them with hyperloop corridors, and turn flooded farmland into fish farms and floating hydroponic platforms. We will be living in a Sci-Fi Starwarsy utopia!
Probably some BS wall trxhnology so they can block the ocean. Plus he can sell it for the border wall.
 

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Centrist Dems seize opening at the DNC: ‘I don’t want to be the freak show party’
Centrist Democrats are revolting.
They sure are. But tell us what they're trying to accomplish politically.
As they begin to dissect their collapse in the presidential election, some Democratic National Committee members are concluding that the party is too “woke,” too focused on identity politics and too out of touch with broad stretches of America.

Those existential concerns, according to interviews with more than two dozen DNC members, are shaping the earliest stages of the race for DNC chair and, in the absence of a formal party autopsy, blame-casting among members about the causes of Vice President Kamala Harris’ defeat.
Oh, sure. Let's start rebuilding Democrats into the other conservative party. That'll win elections.
 

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People vote what they're vested in. And ... looking at polling results ... IT'S THE ECONOMY, STUPID. Biden/Harris made great efforts fixing Trump's neglect, and bringing inflation back under control ... then forgot to tell people about it for the past six months. It was also partially self-inflicted, pouring money into the economy to blunt the recession, without figuring out how to deal with an economy overly flushed with cash, as if the inevitable inflation was a surprise to them.
 

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Yes, but a lot of the rich retires who lean very Republican are more south in areas that are barely above sea level.
The rich retirees living in those areas now will be dead before their houses get permanently flooded. They're also more likely to have the resources to just move elsewhere if things get too bad. And even if that doesn't work out, they'll get financial aid from any staunch "anti-socialist" Republican administration.

Conservatives are the physical embodiment of the "fuck you, I've got mine" mindset.
 
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So I read this and while my husband did not vote for Trump, he didn't vote for Kamala either, which to me, was just the same as if he voted for Trump. I'm still out of sorts about it all. I cannot cancel Thanksgiving or Christmas (because it's my (liberal) family that will be here or I'll be there), still, I get how the woman who wrote this piece feels.


Later that night, I briefly glanced at my husband and found myself not wanting to look into the eyes I love. I hated this divide. I wanted to touch his forearms and feel our connection, but I also felt an urge to punish him and deny him my touch.

“I am sorry about the holidays, but I cannot bite my tongue like I did with Hillary,” I told him. “I don’t want to disrespect your parents or your brother and his family in their home, or our home, so it’s best this way. No scenes. You can go see them. Seriously — I will not be in a room of 15 people who voted for Trump.”

He mentioned our son and his girlfriend, who are coming home for Christmas.
“Will they feel bad?” he asked.

Bad? I think they already feel bad. Really bad, I thought. Instead, I said, “We will have our own small holiday, and it will be fine.”
Will it be fine? I have wondered that since 2016, when I saw my husband’s stubbornness. How could a Latino vote for Trump? How can any of his family members vote for him? Haven’t they believed any of Trump’s comments about immigration? Aren’t they worried about the reproductive safety of the young women and girls in our family? Aren’t they worried about all of the other nightmares that could be headed our way?
I ask myself those same questions every day.
 

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So I read this and while my husband did not vote for Trump, he didn't vote for Kamala either, which to me, was just the same as if he voted for Trump. I'm still out of sorts about it all. I cannot cancel Thanksgiving or Christmas (because it's my (liberal) family that will be here or I'll be there), still, I get how the woman who wrote this piece feels.




I ask myself those same questions every day.
Not to diminish your feelings, but you live in a deeply red state, so it's not as if your husband's non-vote would have changed anything.

And I think there's still a difference between feeling apathetic about this election and actively supporting that rabid orange clown.

One is abandonment, the other is outright betrayal.
 

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Abandonment is a form of betrayal.
It can be unintentional and based on ignorance, though.

Actively supporting Trump feels much more intentional and malicious.

That's where I see the difference.


And don't get me wrong, I still think it was wrong to not support Harris in this election. But that's because when I vote in my own country, I don't consider my vote "my property" - I consider it the property of the people who suffered so I could be its custodian. That's why I have a responsibility to treat it with respect and use it for good. But I understand that not everyone shares this point of view - many people treat putting their vote in a ballot box like giving alms to a homeless person and guard it jealously.
 
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Fortunately I don't have to choose. The one Republican in my family is slipping into paranoid dementia, and I think realizes he's drifting out of bounds. The one thing he can't tolerate is being wrong. He doesn't have to be right, just not provably wrong. He's lack of confidence has resulted in some blissful silence from him lately.

It's not much, but I'll take it.
 

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Fortunately I don't have to choose. The one Republican in my family is slipping into paranoid dementia, and I think realizes he's drifting out of bounds. The one thing he can't tolerate is being wrong. He doesn't have to be right, just not provably wrong. He's lack of confidence has resulted in some blissful silence from him lately.

It's not much, but I'll take it.
This feels like a common thread with these types. My MIL is basically the one Republican I know of in my immidiate family circles and she is absolutely paranoid about EVERYTHING. She has been for a while.

Like, she won't even leave her purse in another oom of the house level paranoid. The house, with the doors locked.
 

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This feels like a common thread with these types. My MIL is basically the one Republican I know of in my immidiate family circles and she is absolutely paranoid about EVERYTHING. She has been for a while.

Like, she won't even leave her purse in another oom of the house level paranoid. The house, with the doors locked.
Respect to your mom.

It's like the whole liberalism is a mental disorder meme was projection like most everything else.
 

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I just learned that my nephew's partner had a major relapse with his schizophrenia. This is the anniversary of his grandma's death - she raised him, so it's unbalancing him. My sis (nephew's Mom) and her husband had to file a complaint because he was knocking on the door at 3 AM or leaving gifts on the porch. I don't think he's a danger to anyone but himself, but I also think nephew simply doesn't have the heart to leave his partner.

I think it's normal to question whether everything has something to do with the election. In this case it may have had some ancillary impact, but I can't be sure the causes.

Everybody's struggling. I have NO problems to speak of. I'm a privileged white middle class suburban mom. But my sleep is riddled with anxiety dreams and I feel like I'm on edge every day. I studiously avoid the news, but it keeps popping up in my feeds. I'm learning discipline to just pass on it and hum a happy tune.

I'm not used to this. Something is going to happen, I know it!

Something always does!

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