The Death of the Grand Old Party

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The biggest party in NL are the liberals.
NL considers them central right, not as conservative as the British Tories though.
In the USA our liberals would be filed under commies I guess. Our left parties would be of the chart.
 

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Liberals will scream about wanting representation of minorities from the LGBT Community or non Christian religeons or women, but where is the demmand for representation from Murderers????

We are a diverse nation, doesn't everyone get a voice?????
 

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The old guard is starting to exit the building.

Dozens of officials from ex-President George W. Bush’s administration say that the GOP’s fealty to former President Donald Trump, even after he incited the deadly Capitol siege, is driving them away from the party, according to Reuters.

Jimmy Gurulé, who served as the Treasury Department’s undersecretary for terrorism and financial intelligence, told Reuters that “[t] Republican Party as I knew it no longer exists.”

“I’d call it the cult of Trump,” he said.
 

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The Whigs were basically the "I hate Andrew Jackson" party, and were surprisingly effective given they survived his death by ten years and change.
Most importantly, they were weak on slavery. That spelled their doom more than any other stand before the Civil War.
 
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Or understand international politics [I more mean my spouse, but I do understand that the so-called radical left is really somewhere center, or even sometimes right of center, anymore.
I only hear "radical left" from those I consider "radical right". For myself and most of my RL friends, "liberal" just means we believe that the government should protect and enable the "little guys" - eg, most of the population to the exclusion of the wealthy. That includes a national health insurance, income equality, generous pandemic relief, etc, over Defense.
 

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The Whigs imploded over slavery but reorganized in the North into the Free Soil Party and then the Republican Party.
 

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I only hear "radical left" from those I consider "radical right". For myself and most of my RL friends, "liberal" just means we believe that the government should protect and enable the "little guys" - eg, most of the population to the exclusion of the wealthy. That includes a national health insurance, income equality, generous pandemic relief, etc, over Defense.
"Radical left" in US political terms is "mainstream centre-right" in most industrialised countries.

Back when I was a student in the 1970s, I had a white South African friend there who had been active in Helen Suzman's Progressive Party, and was an equally active member of our university Conservative Association when I knew him.

I well remember him explaining to me that "If you want to know how fucked up my country's politics are, remember that someone like me, to the right of Margaret Thatcher [she had just been elected as party leader for the first time], has to call himself a 'progressive' and BOSS think I'm a dangerous communist. If they think I'm progressive, imagine what our conservatives are like!"

Over the last few years in particular, the US has sometimes reminded me of that conversation a lot.
 
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Cancer can kill ya.

Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) blasted Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene’s (R-GA) embrace of “loony lies and conspiracy theories” as a “cancer for the Republican Party,” The Hill reports.

Said McConnell: “Somebody who’s suggested that perhaps no airplane hit the Pentagon on 9/11, that horrifying school shootings were pre-staged, and that the Clintons crashed JFK Jr.’s airplane is not living in reality.”
 

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