The 1/6 hearings

[Romana]

I kind of felt the hearings deserve their own thread by this point. I'll start :

 

[Free]

'There's a cold ripple of fear running down the spine of Republicans on Capitol Hill this morning': MSNBC's Claire McCaskill

MSNBC's Claire McCaskill thinks Republicans would be wise to abandon Donald Trump before he brings down the entire party.The Trump-endorsed Susan Wright lost her Texas congressional special election to fellow Republican Jake Ellzey, and "Morning Joe" host Joe Scarborough said that telling defeat...

www.rawstory.com

 

[Romana]

Thread :

 

[Romana]

Duh!

 

[Free]

Did she just admit the real truth here?

 

[Cindy Claveau]

Duh!

Well, they (most of them) actually ARE horrible people, just based on their words and actions.

 

[Free]

 

[Romana]

It's going to be very interesting when he's called to testify.

 

[Cindy Claveau]

It's going to be very interesting when he's called to testify.

It's going to be a mud slinging contest. Trump will NOT cooperate no matter what, saying just barely enough to evade prosecution, deny deny deny, wave hands and blather about how corrupt everybody is but him.

Can't say I'd enjoy a second of it. I had enough of his orange face for 4 years already. I'll wait for the evening news highlights.

 

[Soen Eber]

I'm still waiting for the bomb or the bullet. He's made enemies, and he's no longer useful to whoever has influence over him, whoever they are. Not a threat, just an observation and from reading too much history.

 

[Romana]

It depends. He still creates chaos, sows division, and has an outsize hold over the Republican Party. Seems to me that would still be of use to Putin.

 

[Jopsy Pendragon]

Trump is so weird... he's as likely to incriminate himself on something completely tangential in his efforts to deflect from answering a direct question.

I say get him under oath and just poke him with some hot questions and let him ramble.

 

[Romana]

He doesn't have which self control to say just barely enough of anything.He'll ramble, rage, and rant, and he will not be able to stand up to a tenth of what Hillary had to endure.
Will be incriminate himself? That only happens on Law & Order. But the more he throws people under the bus, the more likely they are to say "WTF am i falling on my sword for this guy for?" unless whatever he has on them is worse.

 

[Innula Zenovka]

He doesn't have which self control to say just barely enough of anything.He'll ramble, rage, and rant, and he will not be able to stand up to a tenth of what Hillary had to endure.
Will be incriminate himself? That only happens on Law & Order. But the more he throws people under the bus, the more likely they are to say "WTF am i falling on my sword for this guy for?" unless whatever he has on them is worse.

He's likely to commit perjury, I suspect. Criminals who know they're far too clever ever to be tripped up do it all the time, particularly when they're pressed on inconsistencies and they have to start making stuff up on the spot to explain them, generally making matters even worse.

 

[Beebo Brink]

He's likely to commit perjury, I suspect.

Trump has limited ability to plan what he says beyond the immediate moment, and he doesn't work from facts, either in terms of lying or telling the truth. He says what makes him feel good at the moment, or that makes him look good (by his perspective). He is incapable of consistency, of maintaining a long reasoned line of defense because that's not even his goal. He is always focused on attention-seeking, grandiosity, self-affirmation and revenge on those who he perceives to have been disloyal to him. He is a lawyer's worst nightmare as a defendant.

 

[GoblinCampFollower]

Trump has limited ability to plan what he says beyond the immediate moment, and he doesn't work from facts, either in terms of lying or telling the truth. He says what makes him feel good at the moment, or that makes him look good (by his perspective). He is incapable of consistency, of maintaining a long reasoned line of defense because that's not even his goal. He is always focused on attention-seeking, grandiosity, self-affirmation and revenge on those who he perceives to have been disloyal to him. He is a lawyer's worst nightmare as a defendant.

YEP. I often get the impression that the number one trait a lawyer wants from a good client is when to shut the fuck up or say they don't know something... Trump seems totally incapable of these things. I think if his life depended on him being able to shut up for a minute, he'd die.

 

[Cindy Claveau]

Trump has limited ability to plan what he says beyond the immediate moment, and he doesn't work from facts, either in terms of lying or telling the truth. He says what makes him feel good at the moment, or that makes him look good (by his perspective). He is incapable of consistency, of maintaining a long reasoned line of defense because that's not even his goal. He is always focused on attention-seeking, grandiosity, self-affirmation and revenge on those who he perceives to have been disloyal to him. He is a lawyer's worst nightmare as a defendant.

What shocks me is that he's been so capable of dodging a prison sentence. Not just as President (or ex) but even more so given his long history in the NY real estate business. He's always been corrupt, and he's mastered the mob art of "plausible deniability".

My hope is that such strategy plays itself out soon as he's hauled in front of courts with no allowance for bullshit or distraction. Even if it's just tax fraud charges - it worked with Capone.

 

[Innula Zenovka]

Trump has limited ability to plan what he says beyond the immediate moment, and he doesn't work from facts, either in terms of lying or telling the truth. He says what makes him feel good at the moment, or that makes him look good (by his perspective). He is incapable of consistency, of maintaining a long reasoned line of defense because that's not even his goal. He is always focused on attention-seeking, grandiosity, self-affirmation and revenge on those who he perceives to have been disloyal to him. He is a lawyer's worst nightmare as a defendant.

Lawyers have give clients honest advice about their best interests, sometimes in quite robust terms.

However, it's up to the client how they run their case and if they're determined to give evidence, they'll give it, and then things go on from there.

 

[Katheryne Helendale]

Duh!

Well, hey! Something I actually agree with her on!

 

[Jopsy Pendragon]

Well, hey! Something I actually agree with her on!

It's not like they need outside help with that. Deserve it, yes, sure...

... but they look like "horrible people". Because they are.