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An abortion ban has killed a woman in Georgia. ProPublica has the story of Amber Nicole Thurman, a 28-year-old medical assistant and mother who died in a hospital, surrounded by people who could have saved her but didn’t.
You should read the entire story, if you can, but the key details are that Thurman took abortion medication to end a 9 week pregnancy, and later went to an Atlanta hospital because not all of the fetal tissue had expelled. The standard of care for the rare complication would have been to give Thurman antibiotics and remove the remaining tissue. Because of Georgia’s abortion ban, Piedmont Henry Hospital only did the former.
 

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That's the game with the late 19th - early 20th century Americana theme, isn't it? There are certainly an abundance of villains from that era.
 
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If Trump wins,
“YOU WILL NO LONGER BE THINKING ABOUT ABORTION, BECAUSE IT IS NOW WHERE IT ALWAYS HAD TO BE, WITH THE STATES, AND A VOTE OF THE PEOPLE.”

Same way that, if he wins, Christians won't need to vote any more, I guess

 

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If Trump wins,
“YOU WILL NO LONGER BE THINKING ABOUT ABORTION, BECAUSE IT IS NOW WHERE IT ALWAYS HAD TO BE, WITH THE STATES, AND A VOTE OF THE PEOPLE.”
Will women be living somewhere else other than in the STATES? Because it seems like he's expecting us not to think about abortion otherwise.
 
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If Trump wins,



Same way that, if he wins, Christians won't need to vote any more, I guess

I suppose the rapist's "level of protection" is located somewhere in his pants, near his misfiring sphincter muscle, that's why nobody wants to see it.
 

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Amari Marsh had just finished her junior year at South Carolina State University in May 2023 when she received a text message from a law enforcement officer.

“Sorry it has taken this long for paperwork to come back,” the officer wrote. “But I finally have the final report, and wanted to see if you and your boyfriend could meet me Wednesday afternoon for a follow up?”

Marsh understood that the report was related to a pregnancy loss she’d experienced that March, she said. During her second trimester, Marsh said, she unexpectedly gave birth in the middle of the night while on a toilet in her off-campus apartment. She remembered screaming and panicking and said the bathroom was covered in blood.
The next day, when Marsh woke up in the hospital, she said, a law enforcement officer asked her questions. Then, a few weeks later, she said, she received a call saying she could collect her daughter’s ashes.

At that point, she said, she didn’t know she was being criminally investigated. Yet three months after her loss, Marsh was charged with murder/homicide by child abuse, law enforcement records show. She spent 22 days at the Orangeburg-Calhoun Regional Detention Center, where she was initially held without bond, facing 20 years to life in prison.

This August, 13 months after she was released from jail to house arrest with an ankle monitor, Marsh was cleared by a grand jury. Her case will not proceed to trial.
It turned out well for Amari Marsh - ignoring that she had to deal with the loss of a child while spending months fearing she might end up in prison for it. Trump's America.
 

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Today, a Fulton County judge struck down Georgia’s six week abortion ban as unconstitutional, and it’s full of incredible quotes up to and including the invocation of the Handmaid’s Tale.
 

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ETA: The responses seem divided between anti-abortion people who are mad with her for being pro-choice and pro-choice people who are mad with her because they hate agreeing with her about anything.

ETA 2:

Now she's released a video, just to make sure everyone gets the message

 
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Hey, there are a lot of things I don't like about Melania Trump, but good for her on making her stance on abortion clear.

She's not American, so it's hardly surprising that she has a more European view of abortion rights, minus all the Evangelical fetus-worship that has taken root in the U.S. over the past couple of decades.

From what I've heard from New York residents, it's an open secret that she's living with a lover, and her marriage to DJT is effectively over.
 

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For an opposing view, there's this


It could well be that these statements from Melania Trump are sincere. But that does not mean that her choice to make them now, at a moment when they are maximally politically beneficial to her husband, is not cynical.
While admittedly I'm viewing this from a great (and safe) distance away, it doesn't seem to me particularly convincing.

From what I read and see over here, Trump doesn't seem particularly concerned about winning people over. Rather, this whole electoral strategy is to concentrate on encouraging his base to turn out and vote, while trying to give people reasons not to vote for Kamala Harris, and hope that this, combined with the efforts of his supporters in various state legislatures and the federal courts, will deliver victory.

The idea that this is a cynical attempt to persuade voters not to be deterred by her husband's record on abortion seems fanciful -- how many people who would not otherwise have voted for Trump are likely to be persuaded so to do (or, at least, not to vote for Harris) by learning his wife is pro-choice? Vanishingly few, I'd suspect, and they'll probably be equalled, if not outnumbered, by those single-issue anti-abortion voters who would otherwise have voted for him but are dissuaded from so doing because they disagree with her.
 

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The idea that this is a cynical attempt to persuade voters not to be deterred by her husband's record on abortion seems fanciful...
One could as easily argue that Melania's statement was made to hurt Trump. I'd be more inclined to believe she's poking him than I would that she's trying to help him.
 

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For an opposing view, there's this




While admittedly I'm viewing this from a great (and safe) distance away, it doesn't seem to me particularly convincing.

From what I read and see over here, Trump doesn't seem particularly concerned about winning people over. Rather, this whole electoral strategy is to concentrate on encouraging his base to turn out and vote, while trying to give people reasons not to vote for Kamala Harris, and hope that this, combined with the efforts of his supporters in various state legislatures and the federal courts, will deliver victory.

The idea that this is a cynical attempt to persuade voters not to be deterred by her husband's record on abortion seems fanciful -- how many people who would not otherwise have voted for Trump are likely to be persuaded so to do (or, at least, not to vote for Harris) by learning his wife is pro-choice? Vanishingly few, I'd suspect, and they'll probably be equalled, if not outnumbered, by those single-issue anti-abortion voters who would otherwise have voted for him but are dissuaded from so doing because they disagree with her.
She's his (in all purposes except for the label) Ex. If anyone knows how to throw him off kilter and get under his skin, it would be his ex. It doesn't have to be for political reasons, she's lived with him and probably has a book full of reasons for doing it.