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A new SL-only social media platform launched earlier this week - https://primfeed.com . It is kind of a Facebook/Twitter hybrid. Right now it is pretty lacking in some features, but it has potential. It seems to be getting a lot of initial interest, though it remains to be seen how popular it remains as people are quite fickle. You have to be registered to use it, but it is pretty simple - you put in your SL name and you are sent a code in world to enter, so there is no threat of account impersonation. Here is my profile there:


The site is bare bones in many ways, but polished. Hopefully they can rapidly iterate and add some very needed features. I do appreciate that it has different maturity levels (G,M,A,A+) with clear guidelines on what each entails. Right now a downside is a lot of creators are doing giveaways that involve having to repost the original post, so my feed is flooded with such things. I imagine filtering will come soon.
 

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In my opinion you are getting the main thing about Primfeed wrong, Cris. And the main thing about Primfeed is being a Flickr replacement.

Why would people want to replace Flickr? Because in the last few months many non pro accounts on Flickr, which were used to host semi nude pics like female avatars in lingerie or daring bikinis were disabled by the company over night without any given explanation. By disabling I mean Flickr shutted down the visibility of these images to the public.

And here's the big but: if you have a Pro account on Flickr, then Flickr has absolutely no problem with you hosting that stuff, allowing it to be seen.

This became more and more an annoyance to all the hobby photographs on Flickr, who used it as portfolio but don't have a pro account there.

Primfeed is really targeted at these people, promising them "we will never censor you" and "we're free." This is what Primfeed is about, the social networking stuff is just fluff built around it.

Anyway I don't have high hopes for Primfeed being around very long. Why you might want to ask? Because of one of the builtin limitations of the free account: it only allows the upload of images with maximum size of 1500x1500 pixels. Which is ridiculously low when most Flickr hobbyists are using 5000x3000 or something similar at upload time.

You can upload higher resolution images on Primfeed, up to 8000x8000 pixels, but for that to happen you need to buy a subscription. This fee is at the moment at L$ 1860 for a month, or L$ 8870 for 24 months. So we should keep on mind these fees might be an introductionary offer and could increase after launch.

And here's now my point: why on earth would people suddenly start paying for a subscription, which is pretty similar in height to Flickr, at Primfeed, who already refuse to do that on Flickr with a vengeance? Furthermore: why should they trust Primfeed? Flickr will not go away for a long time, Primfeed is a totally different type of matter.

I mean competition is always nice, but for me the problem here is there's no such thing like a free lunch, but the main target audience of Primfeed are freeloaders, who don't have pro at Flickr also don't want pro at Flickr but want to have a high resolution image hosting again, which at Primfeed costs money.

IMHO the people should just upload their stuff to Facebook and be happy there then, if they want something for free. FB also has way more users, established tools, resolution for free and gravitas.
 
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I am not missing anything about why they are doing it. Facebook btw is just as strict about content. What is bothering me most about Primfeed right now is that it is literally a fucking clone of Twitter/X:

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I don't have an account.
I get the log in page (the one with no further explanation).

So what is the use is people can't see your pictures?
I'm no SL photographer myself so why would I want to have an account..
Good question. It is not just photography oriented, but a walled garden social network seems strange. Think Twitter for SL users only, with some Flickr galleries thrown in). Facebook doesn't allow NSFW content at all, though somehow vendors manage. This just seems redundant but we will see.
 

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A new SL-only social media platform launched earlier this week - https://primfeed.com . It is kind of a Facebook/Twitter hybrid. Right now it is pretty lacking in some features, but it has potential. It seems to be getting a lot of initial interest, though it remains to be seen how popular it remains as people are quite fickle. You have to be registered to use it, but it is pretty simple - you put in your SL name and you are sent a code in world to enter, so there is no threat of account impersonation. Here is my profile there:


The site is bare bones in many ways, but polished. Hopefully they can rapidly iterate and add some very needed features. I do appreciate that it has different maturity levels (G,M,A,A+) with clear guidelines on what each entails. Right now a downside is a lot of creators are doing giveaways that involve having to repost the original post, so my feed is flooded with such things. I imagine filtering will come soon.
 

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Well what I don't understand is why it appeals to so many people right now. I mean creating this platform is quite the work, I will give that to Luke.

But: why would I want to go there? That's the point I am still totally missing, because nothing I can do there I can do only there... but then again, I never cared about Flickr at all.
 
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You know, I feel like people are talking less and less in general and interacting one on one less on forums etc as well. So it might simply be that the social media age is done but like the coyote stepping off the cliff we haven't realized we're in free-fall yet? I'm pushing sixty, though; so what the fuck do I know?

Much more importantly; I'm peeved that I paid $40+subscription fee for their crummy automatic registration to STILL call me 'Han Held' instead of 'Harper Held'. Fuckers.

Anyway, here's my link (mumbles under my breath about fuckers) though there's no reason for anyone to want it: https://www.primfeed.com/hanheld/
 

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IMHO the people should just upload their stuff to Facebook and be happy there then, if they want something for free. FB also has way more users, established tools, resolution for free and gravitas.
It's hard to hotlink images on Facebook.

Facebook is incredibly privacy intrusive. I made an SL IG account, using a separate browser than everything else, and it still mediately suggested I follow people Unfollow with my RL account.

I deleted my SL Insta immediately.

I am sure FB itself does the same.
 

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'discovery'? Discover what? Ad after ad after ad after ad after ad...? Ugh!

There are a few brave souls posting a snapshot here and a snapshot there that aren't simply ads...bless their hearts.

But yeah, not feeling motivated to wade through this particular sewer, personally.
 

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It's hard to hotlink images on Facebook.

Facebook is incredibly privacy intrusive. I made an SL IG account, using a separate browser than everything else, and it still mediately suggested I follow people Unfollow with my RL account.

I deleted my SL Insta immediately.

I am sure FB itself does the same.
I have a RL FB and an SL one; there used to be a lot more bleed over but it's a lot more rare these days -and it's usually SL folks showing up as suggestions on my RL FB.

I'm not even sure what I do or don't have for an instagram. I should probably get on that lol
 

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What I don't get is that these people are hopping from one walled garden happily to another one, who promises to be more relaxed, open, friendly, whatever.

I mean it's not like the Fediverse isn't a thing.

Why don't they instead setup let's say a Friendica hub, and be happy there? Friendica has the advantage of being open source, and if you are knowledgeable enough, you can setup your own instance. On top of it its federated, and its a fully featured and mature social network software.

 

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So now a few more days into P rimfeed, and the owner has stopped posting user count water marks for the time being. It seems like the big influx of users is over.

Anyway the platform seems to be performing reasonably well, there are frequent changelogs and a visible road map as well.

What I dislike by a great length about Primfeed though is that on the one hand the owner Luke Rowley stated that the terms and services were written by a French lawyer. Also his location is Paris in France according to his profile. So the site is under French law.

In French law a web site needs to have an imprint with real name, contact data etc. Primfeed does not have that at all.

In France also the GDPR obviously is a thing.

Anyway the imprint fails to fulfill the minimum standards of French law. This is something though a social network should do IMHO.
 
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It's hard to hotlink images on Facebook.

Facebook is incredibly privacy intrusive. I made an SL IG account, using a separate browser than everything else, and it still mediately suggested I follow people Unfollow with my RL account.

I deleted my SL Insta immediately.

I am sure FB itself does the same.
It does, it's why I deleted my FB account many many years ago, because that shizz is plain creepy.
 
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Some mate named Tjay Wicken on the community forums (not me) emerged and stated he is going to file complaints about primfeed.com to the Swedish and French data protection authorities, because he's not exactly a happy camper about some stuff Luke Rowley fails to inform about or explain.

As he puts it:

Despite communicating my concerns directly to Luke Rowley, I have not received any response or any indication that these issues will be addressed. As a result, I have decided to escalate the matter by lodging formal complaints with the relevant data protection authorities.​

There are really some valid and hard points which let the statement the ToS were written by a lawyer just run down the drain... pretty quickly.

Let's see where this is going to lead...
 
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It's hard to hotlink images on Facebook.

Facebook is incredibly privacy intrusive. I made an SL IG account, using a separate browser than everything else, and it still mediately suggested I follow people Unfollow with my RL account.
Separate browser wouldn't do a damn thing, because the MAC address of the computer and sometimes IP address would be the same. That's how they're doing it.
 
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Separate browser wouldn't do a damn thing, because the MAC address of the computer and sometimes IP address would be the same. That's how they're doing it.
Oh yeah, and I am sure other companies do it *Cough*Google*Cough*. But they aren't so blatant about flaunting it.

Even Twitter didn't do this.
 
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