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Whole thread in here but ZING:

I'm a bit surprised and saddened it's even noteworthy that the judge doesn't misgender him.

In the UK, as a matter of course, the judge will establish beforehand with the lawyers what the pronouns are of anyone involved in the case who is TG and will then be scrupulous about using them (with the judge, if necessary, explaining to the jury why they're using any pronouns other than "she" and "he").

The Crown Prosecution Service's trans equality statement says
The CPS recognises that when misgendering is used as a deliberate tactic during the commission of an offence, it can form the basis of a transphobic hate crime. Involuntary ‘outing’ can also have significant consequences for the individual. Against this background, the CPS recognises the need for sensitivity in the use of appropriate terminology. Prosecutors should address Trans victims, witnesses and defendants according to their affirmed gender and name, using that gender and related pronouns in all documentation and in the courtroom.

That's been the practice for years now and it's not contentious in the slightest.

I'm not saying this to suggest we're good for using people's preferred pronouns, but because I'm surprised it's any more noteworthy a US judge should do that than that the judge addresses women as "Ms" rather than "Miss" or "Mrs" unless they've asked to addressed that way.
 
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Like so many other "radical socialist" ideas, this is pretty mainstream over here (and, I am sure, in most industialised and post-industrial countries too), along with free, or state-supported, medical care.

To quote some advice for Brits struggling with their power bills,
Contact your supplier to explain your situation, and offer to pay an amount you can afford. All energy suppliers follow a code of practice that means they must take certain steps before cutting off your supply. Your supplier won't cut you off if you agree a regular payment plan with it and then stick to it. The number of customers disconnected for debt, or who have prepayment meters installed for debt, is falling after the energy regulator stepped in. Only 17 households were disconnected for debt in 2017, compared with 640 in 2013.

Read more: Help If You're Struggling To Pay Your Energy Bill - Which? - Which?
 

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I would be upset about this if Bernie and Yang supporters hadn't been saying literally the exact same thing about Biden for months. Buttigieg and Warren supporters are also openly accused on a daily basis of being 100% okay with fascism "as long as it's more polite". With those things considered this becomes pretty standard campaigning.
 

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I would be upset about this if Bernie and Yang supporters hadn't been saying literally the exact same thing about Biden for months. Buttigieg and Warren supporters are also openly accused on a daily basis of being 100% okay with fascism "as long as it's more polite". With those things considered this becomes pretty standard campaigning.
So your ok with this?
 

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So your ok with this?
While I'm open to correction here, I think Brendan James may be mistaken in saying that Emily's List is "dedicated to attacking anti-choice candidates."

According to that organisation's website, their Mission Statement is "We elect pro-choice Democratic women to office," so doesn't it make sense that, in the primaries, or at least in this stage, they'll be supporting candidates they consider to be "pro-choice Democratic women"?

Whether they would have been wise to have considered doing this by attacking Bernie Sanders, the candidate most likely to prevent the selection of a pro-choice woman as candidate, by running this ad, had they ever seen the draft script, is another question, but I rather suspect that, were any of the other male candidates the front-runner at the moment, they (or the people who supply the ideas for their ads) might have been considering running similar ads against him.
 
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While I'm open to correction here, I think Brendan James may be mistaken in saying that Emily's List is "dedicated to attacking anti-choice candidates."

According to that organisation's website, their Mission Statement is "We elect pro-choice Democratic women to office," so doesn't it make sense that, in the primaries, or at least in this stage, they'll be supporting candidates they consider to be "pro-choice Democratic women"?

Whether they would have been wise to have considered doing this by attacking Bernie Sanders, the candidate most likely to prevent the selection of a pro-choice woman as candidate, by running this ad, had they ever seen the draft script, is another question, but I rather suspect that, were any of the other male candidates the front-runner at the moment, they (or the people who supply the ideas for their ads) might have been considering running similar ads against him.
So all is fair?
There's attacking policy, but comparing him to trump is just blatant lying.
 
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So all is fair?
There's attacking policy, but comparing him to trump is just blatant lying.
No, and it would appear that Emily's List agree with you, since they are not using the proposed advert that they didn't commission and didn't script.

A contractor -- an ad agency or media advisor or whatever -- wrote the draft for their consideration, that's all, and they quite rightly turned it down.
 
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