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I'm starting a new thread on this, because this story is likely to develop over time.

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YouTube suspends Russell Brand’s revenues from his channel

A spokesperson for YouTube said: “We have suspended monetisation on Russell Brand’s channel for violating our creator responsibility policy. If a creator’s off-platform behaviour harms our users, employees or ecosystem, we take action to protect the community.”

Industry experts have estimated Brand probably makes between £2,000 to £4,000 a video, which,, based on five videos a week, could produce close to £1m a year.
Also, an interview yesterday with Alice, who says he assaulted her when she was 16 and he was 30/31, on BBC Radio4's Woman's Hour (about 27.30 minutes in).


She makes the point that, for all his denials, he doesn't deny that he had sex with her when she was 16, and says he used a BBC chauffeur-driven car to pick her up from school and take her to his house.

She suggests he's been building up his audience of conspiracy-theory fans for years because he knows this day was coming, and wanted a large group of the paying public who would distrust allegations about him from the mainstream legacy media.
 

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She makes the point that, for all his denials, he doesn't deny that he had sex with her when she was 16, and says he used a BBC chauffeur-driven car to pick her up from school and take her to his house.
I've noticed a growing trend of powerful people admitting to all the details of their crimes but not understanding that those details make them guilty. Some examples off the top of my head:

1) Cosby admitted he gave women drugs so he could have sex with them and told them it was something else sometimes. ...still sees himself as a political prisoner.

2) Trump admitted he fired Comey because he was mad as hell about "this Russia thing" but won't acknowledge that was obstruction.

3) Kevin Spacy happily came out as gay after the allegations came out as if that made everything fine...

I'm sure there are more that I just can't remember right away...
 

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I'm still waiting for Brand to sue The Times, The Sunday Times and Channel 4 for libel.

It's not as if he can't afford the lawyers. He is, after all, now worth several million, and the English courts are one of the most plaintiff-friendly places for libel cases to be heard.
 
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I'm still waiting for Brand to sue The Times, The Sunday Times and Channel 4 for libel.

It's not as if he can't afford the lawyers. He is, after all, now worth several million, and the English courts are one of the most plaintiff-friendly places for libel cases to be heard.
Yeah... by comparison I've heard of American courts telling celebrities to F-off when they sued tabloids for obviously fake stories.
 

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I'm starting a new thread on this, because this story is likely to develop over time.

Latest development:

YouTube suspends Russell Brand’s revenues from his channel



Also, an interview yesterday with Alice, who says he assaulted her when she was 16 and he was 30/31, on BBC Radio4's Woman's Hour (about 27.30 minutes in).


She makes the point that, for all his denials, he doesn't deny that he had sex with her when she was 16, and says he used a BBC chauffeur-driven car to pick her up from school and take her to his house.

She suggests he's been building up his audience of conspiracy-theory fans for years because he knows this day was coming, and wanted a large group of the paying public who would distrust allegations about him from the mainstream legacy media.
What a real piece of work he is.
 

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To no one's great surprise...

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The article, however, doesn't give any indication of what Brand earns from his Rumble videos -- YouTube's decision to demonetise his videos will, it is said, probably cost him around £1 million (about $1.29 million) a year, and while his fans may well move to YouTube (or Twitter X), it's questionable whether advertisers will be so keen to associate themselves with him.
 

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I'm hoping his parents take some responsibility for him. :hellokitty:
HIs father sounds quite a piece of work:

His personal quest means he’s gone through umpteen therapists, regaling each with his admittedly eye-popping life story. It got to the point where it would almost be a performance. He would rattle through being an only child, his mum getting cancer three times, being sexually abused by a tutor, his relationship with his macho stepdad, his sexually profligate dad who took him to Thailand and ordered three prostitutes (two for him, one for 16-year-old Russell), his problems with crack, heroin, with cutting himself, with sex, with food. The therapist he liked most listened to it all and said, “Yes, but Russell, what is it? What. Is. It?”
 
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The right wing played its part in elevating Brand, according him a political bogeyman status that served him well. But the left did more. The British hard left has a long history of treating women as irrelevant collateral. Female Labour MPs have long complained about sexism on the left (“Left-wing men are the worst — the actual worst,” Jess Phillips has said). The left is also prone to worshipping messianic male figures. At the most extreme end, Gerry Healy, leader of the Workers Revolutionary Party in the 1970s and 1980s and accused of being a rapist, was vehemently defended by supporters. In 2013 a 19-year-old woman accused Martin Smith, then the national secretary of the Socialist Workers Party, of rape. While he was never charged, the SWP swept the allegations under the carpet, with one member of the disputes committee saying the party had “no faith in the bourgeois court system to deliver justice”.
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I don't think I realized Brand was that big in Britain... and yes, his sexist jokes seem pretty obvious in hindsight but were forgiven for partisan reasons and because so many still think "just a joke" is a free pass for anything. I still regularly encounter people who act like if it's just a "joke" it can't be hateful....


Many far-left men now express their misogyny not by praising a comedian who talked about choking women with blow jobs but by sneering at women for defending their rights and maintaining their boundaries, calling them Karens and bigots and Terfs
I got to comment on this closing statement though.... one of these terms is not like the others... I agree "Karen" is often abused for sexist purposes. It's often used to refer to just any woman who has an opinion.... but I feel like "TERF" was shoehorned in there because she's maybe been criticized for that before. It doesn't seem to fit with the rest of the article.
 
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Rumble has been thrust into the spotlight after Brand used it to declare his innocence of sexual assault claims.

Under the Online Safety Bill, which is due to become law next month, Rumble will be regulated by Ofcom because it is accessible in the UK.
Brand has recognised the impact the new law could have. In a statement on Friday, he said: “The British government has asked big tech platforms to censor our online content. [This] bill . . . is a piece of UK legislation that grants sweeping surveillance and censorship powers.”
Under the new law Rumble will have to prevent children from seeing pornography and material that promotes self-harm, suicide or eating disorders. Violent content and material harmful to health, such as vaccine misinformation, will also have to be kept from children.
Ofcom will also draw up new guidelines on violence against women and girls that will have to be adhered to.

Rumble will also have to take down material that is illegal, such as videos that incite violence or race hate.
It will be very interesting to see how this plays out. While I'm not particularly comfortable in principle with governments having this kind of power, I'm even less comfortable with unregulated overseas companies being able make money by ignoring local laws.

Whatever my misgivings about the details of the bill (soon to become law) I trust the British regulators and courts to get free speech right far more than I trust right-wing US and Canadian billionaires.

If people really do want to access particular kinds of material after the bill becomes law, they can easily do so by using a VPN, which seems to me to mitigate many of the potential problems -- the bill seeks to regulate social media platforms rather than their users. If teenage boys in the UK want to watch Andrew Tate's videos they'll still be able to without much difficulty. They will, however, be less likely to find it by accident, and the measures will make these platforms less attractive to advertisers, both of which seem not undesirable outcomes.
 

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This Brand fellow is getting a lot of press. I take it he is a big deal over there?

I did see one of his appearances, but could not make out what he was on about. I do fine with most accents, but his is beyond me. Or he just was high and mumbling. 🤷‍♀️
 
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This Brand fellow is getting a lot of press. I take it he is a big deal over there?

I did see one of his appearances, but could not make out what he was on about. I do fine with most accents, but his is beyond me. Or he just was high and mumbling. 🤷‍♀️
He used to be a very big name in the UK as a comic and as TV and radio presenter, and later gained a considerable following as a left-wing political activist. He also enjoyed some success in Hollywood. His Wikipedia article provides a good summary of his career.

The reason, I think, it's such a big story here is that it was apparently an open secret in TV and on the comedy circuit that he was a sexual predator, and that the TV stations and production companies enabled his behaviour, rather as they did with Jimmy Saville.