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And let me guess - they are running software from the American company Palantir, because most of these authorities do.

Co-founded by Peter Thiel, because we Germans are great at suppressing people as shown in the past. And Americans are great to make a global business out of it. Win-win!
 

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I can't see this used against private citizens by the government because of the constitutional guarantees baked into the constitution that even Trump can't undo (although he can ignore them as is his want). Employees, on the other hand ...
 
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When Rishi Sunak gave his waterlogged announcement of the general election that would see his party kicked out of office, he did it with a backing track of D:Ream's "things can only get better". He didn't want that music, it was provided by long term anti brexit (and anti Tory) protestor Steve Bray, who has just been found not guilty of breaking anti-protest laws. Steve is something of a legend among brexit opponents and I am very happy to see him exonerated.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/apr/14/stop-brexit-man-steve-bray-cleared-flouting-ban-music-outside-parliament
 
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The UK's supreme court decided in a historic and definitive ruling that the terms "woman" and "sex" in the Equality Act refer only to a biological woman and to biological sex.

In a decision that delighted gender-critical activists, five judges ruled unanimously that the legal definition of a woman in the Equality Act 2010 did not include transgender women who hold gender recognition certificates (GRCs).

The judgment could have far-reaching ramifications and lead to greater restrictions on the access for trans women to services and spaces reserved for women. It prompted calls for the UK’s laws on gender recognition to be rewritten.

The UK government said the ruling brought “clarity and confidence” for women and those who run hospitals, sports clubs and women’s refuges.
A spokesperson said: “We have always supported the protection of single-sex spaces based on biological sex. Single-sex spaces are protected in law and will always be protected by this government.”

The case was brought to the supreme court by the gender-critical campaign group For Women Scotland, which is backed financially by JK Rowling, after two Scottish courts rejected its arguments that the Equality Act’s definition of a woman was limited to people born biologically female.

 
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The UK's supreme court decided in a historic and definitive ruling that the terms "woman" and "sex" in the Equality Act refer only to a biological woman and to biological sex.

In a decision that delighted gender-critical activists, five judges ruled unanimously that the legal definition of a woman in the Equality Act 2010 did not include transgender women who hold gender recognition certificates (GRCs).

The judgment could have far-reaching ramifications and lead to greater restrictions on the access for trans women to services and spaces reserved for women. It prompted calls for the UK’s laws on gender recognition to be rewritten.

The UK government said the ruling brought “clarity and confidence” for women and those who run hospitals, sports clubs and women’s refuges.
A spokesperson said: “We have always supported the protection of single-sex spaces based on biological sex. Single-sex spaces are protected in law and will always be protected by this government.”

The case was brought to the supreme court by the gender-critical campaign group For Women Scotland, which is backed financially by JK Rowling, after two Scottish courts rejected its arguments that the Equality Act’s definition of a woman was limited to people born biologically female.

It's important to remember that the UK Supreme Court, unlike its US counterpart, confines itself to the narrow and technical question of what the law is on a particular point rather than what the judges think the law ought to be. The Supreme Court is at pains to make this clear

The Court concludes that the provisions of the EA 2010 discussed above are provisions to which section 9(3) of the GRA 2004 [Gender Recognition Act] applies. The meaning of the terms “sex”, “man” and “woman” in the EA 2010 refer to biological sex, as any other interpretation would render the EA 2010 [Equality Act] incoherent and impracticable to operate [264]. Therefore, a person with a GRC in the female gender does not come within the definition of a “woman” under the EA 2010 and the statutory guidance issued by the Scottish Ministers is incorrect [266].

Protection from Discrimination

This interpretation of the EA 2010 does not remove protection from trans people, with or without a GRC. Trans people are protected from discrimination on the ground of gender reassignment. They are also able to invoke the provisions on direct discrimination and harassment, and indirect discrimination on the basis of sex. In the light of case law interpreting the relevant provisions, a trans woman can claim sex discrimination because she is perceived to be a woman. A certificated sex reading is not required to give this protection [248]-[263].

Basically, the Gender Recognition Act says that it can be overridden by subsequent legislation. The Equality Act, passed some years later, cannot be read coherently unless it's assumed that references to gender and sex refer to those assigned at birth, so that's the way it must be read.

If Parliament don't like this, it's up to Parliament to sort this out, not the Supreme Court.

This article is a good summary


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[T]his is where my concerns come in: they are political, not judicial. In terms of the process of what has happened, it is an absurdity that the Supreme Court had to rule on this at all. Parliament and politicians at any point, since the beginning of this judicial process, could have made clear what it meant, using its statutory powers. Three parliaments, for political reasons, decided to duck it. This was pusillanimous. Allowing these things to be decided by the courts is problematic. First, it creates the impression of constitutional permanence which does not exist in our system. Too many believe we have the same model as the United States, where their Supreme Court has the last word. In our system, that privilege is Parliament’s. Parliament should not be following the Court and relying on it to determine what it meant: it should have done that for itself, one way or the other. I note that the usual critics of so-called “judicial activism”, are curiously quiet today.
Links to the press summary and to the judgment itself : For Women Scotland Ltd (Appellant) v The Scottish Ministers (Respondent) - UK Supreme Court
 

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The UK's supreme court decided in a historic and definitive ruling that the terms "woman" and "sex" in the Equality Act refer only to a biological woman and to biological sex.

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The Supreme Court judgment concerns, among other things, how the Equality Act 2010 (passed after the Gender Recognition Act 2004), protects pregnancy, childbirth, maternity leave and breastfeeding. The Act consolidates various pieces of Equality legislation passed before the Gender Recognition Act, in which there can be no doubt that "male" and "female" apply to the gender assigned at birth, so where the 2010 Act reproduces provisions from pre-GRA Acts, the assumption is that Parliament intended them to be read in the same way as their pre-GRA equivalents.

The 2010 Act uses the terms "woman" and "she" throughout these sections, yet there is nothing to suggest that Parliament did not intend these protections to apply to everyone who becomes pregnant, gives birth or breastfeeds at work, including trans men (i.e. people assigned male at birth) who become pregnant, regardless of whether they possess a gender recognition certificate or not. Had Parliament intended to remove these protections from all trans men, or only from trans men who possess a recognition certificate, who become pregnant, it could easily have done so.

This is one of several examples where the natural reading of provisions in the Equality Act requires the assumption that Parliament intended the terms"woman" and "men" to apply to biological sex (gender assigned at birth) if it's to make any sense, so the Supreme Court found that, for the purposes of interpreting the Equality Act "men" and "women" have to be read as applying to the gender assigned at birth unless the Act specifically says otherwise. This, they concluded, is the only way to read the Equality Act 2010 without rendering much of the Act as it concerns gender completely ambiguous, with no one knowing exactly what their rights and obligations are.

In the UK, it's Parliament, not the Supreme Court, who are the ultimate judges of what the law should be. The Supreme Court have found that when the Equality Act 2010 uses terms like "male" and "female" these should be interpreted as applying to gender assigned at birth, without reference to the Gender Recognition Act, unless the Act expressly says they should be interpreted in some other way. If that is not what Parliament intends, then Parliament should revise the Equality Act 2010 to make it explicit how these terms are to be interpreted in various contexts.

Reading through the judgment I'm struck by the fact that, while almost all public discussion concerns trans women (assigned male at birth but living as women), the Supreme Court concentrates on the anomalies that arise for trans men if references to gender in the 2010 Act are read as referring to biological sex. This, I think, is a side of the discussion that is often forgotten.
 
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After the groundbreaking success of Truth Social in the states there will be now Truss Social in the UK, uncensored and against the deep state!

Well while the name is made up, the rest is the truth: former PM Liss Truss announced she will launch her own social media platform.

Liz Truss will launch an “uncensorable” social media platform this summer to take on the “deep state”.

In February the former prime minister announced a “free speech media network” at the Conservative Political Action Conference (Cpac) in Washington, at which she claimed that Britain was “in the Dark Ages”.

At Cpac, Truss pledged that the platform would be “uncancellable” in the hope of reversing what she described as “the West’s war against itself”.

 
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Using a world-first innovative technique — amounting to the biggest shake up in explosive manufacturing in five decades — BAE now wants to produce its own sovereign explosives and market the technology across the globe.

Previously BAE Systems imported RDX explosives from two main sources, the US and France.

The company, the largest defence contractor in Europe, is hoping to reach a position where its munitions are deemed to be “Itar-free”, essentially without any US components or material so they can be used and sold on without being subject to any restrictions from America.
 

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The nation of Crimson Permanent Assurance (formerly the United Kingdom) now marketing bombs.
 

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Excavated soil from a French nuclear plant to a British farm really is the sign of the times.



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The nation of Crimson Permanent Assurance (formerly the United Kingdom) now marketing bombs.
I think it's more that we want to continue to supply Ukraine with armaments so they can defend themselves against the Russians, and also to be able to honour our NATO commitments to the Baltic Republics should Putin invade them, and we can no longer trust the US not to sabotage this.
 

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