Linden Lab introduces Senra starter bodies.

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Tried it briefly, was hoping I had found a way to finally update my avatar without tackling the learning curve. Nope.
Really thought for a while it was just another old system avatar, the skin was that lousy, and the neck seemed long and the head small.
Eh, shapes arew fairly easy to edit at least. The base body itself seems pretty decent with BOM and what not at least. The shapes and skins included are not great but they are easily replaced for modified and fixed.
 
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  • the "I'm not really good at creating, but even I could do better" crowd.
My ears are burning ;)
But naw. If I really decide I give a shit Ruth2 and Makehuman are literally right there....and don't come with weird ass restrictions.

interesting thing:
  • Official Forums threads can be set to moderated, where every post gets examined by mods before being published. Never before seen this happen but looks like Patch didn't want to nuke his own thread.
Pretty standard forum feature (for anything vaguely phpbb at least) so it's not surprising that they have it ...but that they don't use it more often!
 
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I wonder why there are only people at Linden Lab who are so bad at their Job that they kill off the Company with their chosen Theme song " Killing me slowly ".
The Avatars called Senra look like they are from 2011 and it is unbelievable that a COMPANY that is worth MILLIONS of DOLLARS has no funds to invest in ACTUAL 3D Artists to release actual content TO DRAW NEW PLAYERS IN.

Not to mention that Second Life was dubbed a disappointment to its original creators and founders.

If Linden Lab wanted to actually DO SOMETHING for the platform they would hire people whore have either graduated from a real college/university or would consult with actual popular creators and get rid of people like Strawberry Linden NEE Singh who is a yes-sayer and has NEVER done anything for a positive change to the platform.

What we need is better protection from content theft and Identity protection for the virtual self. Drastically reduced pricing on virtual Land to encourage social behavior and creativity. A better DMCA System where people can not falsely be DMCAed unless they offer proof before the accused has to remove items.
Harsh penalties for copycats and copy bots. Forced removal of any child-like avatar to prevent abuse by twisted perverts who will fulfill their weirdest fantasies like this. A support division for Creators is also needed.

AND A BIG FAT advertisement campaign by actually talented people and not the losers who get overpaid by LL.
 

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Drastically reduced pricing on virtual Land to encourage social behavior and creativity.
This got me thinking and realizing something.

I wonder how much a massive slash on land and tier would boost sales of items.

Like, I am capable of and have run OpenSIM. I can set up and a small cluster of regions, for zero cost privately, and very small cost publicly. Like $10/month on a VPS publicly.

But I don't. Because no one is really there. Though I don't really care about that part, more importantly, I am only so so at creating stuff to put there, and only have so much time to create that stuff (which is generally zero time).

But I would buy sooooo much just to decorate a space. And have. I but all sorts of decors and such for my Linden Home, but its only so much space.

I am not saying LL should make regions $10/month. I am just saying, if tier were cheaper, I would have more land holdings than my one 1024 Linden Home again, and I would drop a ton of money on building little scenes then tearing them down every few months to build something completely different.
 

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The Lab make their RL coins with land and premium memberships and exchange fees go to Tilia.
Their bread and butter is land.
They have proven yet again not to be the best content creators for their own product: They can't make their livings with that.
So basically totally overpriced land fees are their only chance to survive as a company,
as SL is still their only goose that produces golden eggs.
So significant lower land fees will not happen any time soon IMHO.
 
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Yeah thats probably true. Even if lower land tier increased MP sales 1000x for digital plants, they only get a tiny percentage of that, which probably would not outpace the land tier loss.
 
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I wonder how much a massive slash on land and tier would boost sales of items.
The issue is that creators are struggling with declining user numbers. Everybody can tell me it is not true, but it is. There are not as many people around these days. The Linden Dollars are expensive these days. Financial Crisis is existent and second life was supposed to be a purchasable option.

Honestly if LL wants to not kill SL off they have to hire INTELLIGENT people, people more intelligent than what they have now. Which should not be hard.


The Lab make their RL coins with land and premium memberships and exchange fees go to Tilia.
Their bread and butter is land.
They have proven yet again not to be the best content creators for their own product, so they can't make their livings with that.
So basically totally overpriced land fees are their only chance to survive as a company,
as SL is still their only goose that produces golden eggs.
So significant lower land fees will not happen any time soon IMHO.
That is understandable but also a sad certificate to a badly organized company. Imagine having a company that is built on a 3D platform that can't hire a single person with the talent to offer GOOD 3D-Products. All their ideas are flops.
 
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Let's not forget the Name Change bullsh*t.
You buy a name and then have to pay the same price again to switch between the name you acquired. That is just greedy.
As much as I hate the pricing on this, its something I managed to write off because its exactly a page out of World of Warcraft.

Player services in WOW, like name changes and race changes etc, are rediculously over priced.
 
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Honestly if LL wants to not kill SL off they have to hire INTELLIGENT people, people more intelligent than what they have now. Which should not be hard.
I was hoping the new owners would sweep through their new asset weeding out the incompetent, but nope didn't happen.
 
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The issue is that creators are struggling with declining user numbers. Everybody can tell me it is not true, but it is. There are not as many people around these days. The Linden Dollars are expensive these days. Financial Crisis is existent and second life was supposed to be a purchasable option.

Honestly if LL wants to not kill SL off they have to hire INTELLIGENT people, people more intelligent than what they have now. Which should not be hard.



That is understandable but also a sad certificate to a badly organized company. Imagine having a company that is built on a 3D platform that can't hire a single person with the talent to offer GOOD 3D-Products. All their ideas are flops.
SL is old. It is a miracle that the software still runs as good as it does. IMHO it is tons of duct tape, bandages and emergency fixes that make our wonderful world survive. That doesn't help to attract experts in the field.
And then there is still that pretty odd TAO of Linden approach. Not everybody's beer.

On the other hand there are\have been so many talented residents involved in SL in so many different fields. LL should have hired them for market conform salaries for special projects, like now the starter avatars.

Now they are working on a phone browser. If it is as mediocre as the new starter avatars, that will be sadly dead on arrival too IMHO.
Ah well, it is what it is.
 

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I was hoping the new owners would sweep through their new asset weeding out the incompetent, but nope didn't happen.
They are friends of Philip Rosedale, have no clue about how such a company should be ran, only see that there is a profit every month.
It is not for nothing that Philip returned as an advisor.
 

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Now they are working on a phone browser. If it is as mediocre as the new starter avatars, that will be sadly dead on arrival too IMHO.
Ah well, it is what it is.
It occurs to me, that managing clothing on the phone will be a nightmare.

They almost need to add some handles for objects and clothing. And not just attachment points, since so much is just "right hand".

Maybe, even just on mobile, it opens a sort of "get dressed" mode, where you see your avatar rendered, and pick items to wear from your inventory, but it doesn't actually apply them in world until you apply them.

And adjacent, maybe add some way creators (and users) can sort of, tag items, as "top", "bottom", "underwear bottom, "underwear top", etc. Granted not everyone or thing would get tagged, but then you could wear a "top" and if you were already wearing something tagged "top" maybe it auto removes it. But nothing else, like "bottom", even if they are all on the same attachment point.

I suppose attachment points kind of already is this.
 
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Yeah thats probably true. Even if lower land tier increased MP sales 1000x for digital plants, they only get a tiny percentage of that, which probably would not outpace the land tier loss.
MP sales are in Lindens, so the percentage that goes to LL is just a money sink to remove currency from circulation. Linden dollars are not an income stream because they are not money outside of the grid. They are like Monopoly money, inworld markers of use to players only. So LL gets no direct benefit from increased MP activity, it probably gets a slight loss due to more maintenance pressures.
 
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It occurs to me, that managing clothing on the phone will be a nightmare.

They almost need to add some handles for objects and clothing. And not just attachment points, since so much is just "right hand".

Maybe, even just on mobile, it opens a sort of "get dressed" mode, where you see your avatar rendered, and pick items to wear from your inventory, but it doesn't actually apply them in world until you apply them.

And adjacent, maybe add some way creators (and users) can sort of, tag items, as "top", "bottom", "underwear bottom, "underwear top", etc. Granted not everyone or thing would get tagged, but then you could wear a "top" and if you were already wearing something tagged "top" maybe it auto removes it. But nothing else, like "bottom", even if they are all on the same attachment point.

I suppose attachment points kind of already is this.
maybe phone viewer will revive the "complete avatar" sales category...

BTW will I-Phone users be locked to G rated places?
 

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BTW will I-Phone users be locked to G rated places?
Nah, the whole web is just getting more puritan, so more likely LL will just move Zindra another 5000 ticks out to the East and delist "Adult" from search.
 
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MP sales are in Lindens, so the percentage that goes to LL is just a money sink to remove currency from circulation. Linden dollars are not an income stream because they are not money outside of the grid. They are like Monopoly money, inworld markers of use to players only. So LL gets no direct benefit from increased MP activity, it probably gets a slight loss due to more maintenance pressures.
It helps stabilizing the demand for L$ even though they pump in new stipend payments every Tuesday. Costs them nothing of course, but it should not destabilize demand.
 

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Nah, the whole web is just getting more puritan, so more likely LL will just move Zindra another 5000 ticks out to the East and delist "Adult" from search.
A SL without adult content and activities means game over within 3 months for the company, so no worries about that.
 
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My ears are burning ;)
But naw. If I really decide I give a shit Ruth2 and Makehuman are literally right there....and don't come with weird ass restrictions.


Pretty standard forum feature (for anything vaguely phpbb at least) so it's not surprising that they have it ...but that they don't use it more often!
The freedom of speech is very limited as it is over there. I don't think a lot of regulars (besides the well known cheerleader pack) will even bother to put in an effort to respond any longer if this becomes common practice.

And this way of moderation asks a lot more time from the Moles and Lindens.