Julian Assange's 10th year in prison.

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Fear for his life, if he was pinned down somewhere the americans could get to him.
Why has he not explained these fears to any court before which he has appeared? His welfare in the US penal system, and particularly his possible conditions of imprisonment and concerns for his mental health, have been major issues in the case, after all, so if he's in genuine fear for his life at the hands of the Americans, why hasn't he raised this?
 
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Why has he not explained these fears to any court before which he has appeared? His welfare in the US penal system, and particularly his possible conditions of imprisonment and concerns for his mental health, have been major issues in the case, after all, so if he's in genuine fear for his life at the hands of the Americans, why hasn't he raised this?
I suspect his lawyer told him it wouldn't help his case.
 

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Julian Assange allowed to get married in prison
In about as grudging a way as the powers-that-be could get away with - 4 guests, 2 witnesses, all have to leave as soon as it's over, and no photographer.

I know breaking bail has 'consequences', but this is getting ridiculous.
A consequence of breaking bail is that it greatly decreases your chances of being granted bail again since you've demonstrated you can't be trusted to keep your word and turn up for trial.

Since Assange was very lucky to be granted bail in the first place, on the rape charge, since he was a foreign national with no close UK ties facing serious charges, he's not going to be bailed again by an English court in a hurry. He's in exactly the same position as all those foreign-born radical Islamists, with far stronger ties to the UK than has Assange, who spent years on remand in the UK fighting extradition to the US and elsewhere, except that he was granted bail and abused it. Abu Hamza and Abu Qatada never got that chance, presumably because they weren't fashionable causes and didn't have wealthy friends with country houses who were prepared to accommodate them.
 
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A consequence of breaking bail is that it greatly decreases your chances of being granted bail again since you've demonstrated you can't be trusted to keep your word and turn up for trial.

Since Assange was very lucky to be granted bail in the first place, on the rape charge, since he was a foreign national with no close UK ties facing serious charges, he's not going to be bailed again by an English court in a hurry. He's in exactly the same position as all those foreign-born radical Islamists, with far stronger ties to the UK than has Assange, who spent years on remand in the UK fighting extradition to the US and elsewhere, except that he was granted bail and abused it. Abu Hamza and Abu Qatada never got that chance, presumably because they weren't fashionable causes and didn't have wealthy friends with country houses who were prepared to accommodate them.
Ho-hum...
 
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There are plenty of men and women languishing in British prisons, victims, at least in part, of their own stupidity and poor choices, who are far more deserving of sympathy than is Julian Assange.
So what, should we only sympathise with whoever happens to be at the top of your personal list of deserving victims, and ignore anyone else ?

Doesn't make much difference now, anyway - I doubt he'll ever be a free man again Julian Assange refused permission to appeal against US extradition by UK’s top court
 
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So what, should we only sympathise with whoever happens to be at the top of your personal list of deserving victims, and ignore anyone else ?

Doesn't make much difference now, anyway - I doubt he'll ever be a free man again Julian Assange refused permission to appeal against US extradition by UK’s top court
Projecting a bit? You're the only one advocating for special privileges for a specific prisoner, everyone else is pointing out that there -are- more deserving prisoners - ones who never jumped bail, who were never given bail.... etc
 

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And publishing unredacted papers from Turkey and Saudi Arabia that endangered people?
 
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I happen to believe what he did initially (publishing the papers) was the right thing to do, and everything since has been done with a bias that he 'must be punished'.
I happen to believe that what he did initially (sexual assaults in Sweden) was the wrong thing to do, and everything since has been done (according to Assange) with a bias that he is being punished for something else.

Assange was arrested at the request of the Swedish authorities. He skipped bail and ran away into the Ecuadorian embassy to avoid being put on trial for his unpleasant behaviour in Sweden. Nothing at all ever was about the USA. That was all crap invented by Assange and his windowlicking apologists long after he'd outstayed his welcome in that embassy. By making such a stupid spectacle of himself he pretty much invited the USA to apply for his extradition. If he'd gone to Sweden and served his two or three years in luxury he'd have been out and carrying on as usual. It's no wonder that he's looked on like a turd on a shoe. Britain doesn't care where the turd ends up, just please be on someone else's carpet.
 

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I happen to believe that what he did initially (sexual assaults in Sweden) was the wrong thing to do, and everything since has been done (according to Assange) with a bias that he is being punished for something else.

Assange was arrested at the request of the Swedish authorities. He skipped bail and ran away into the Ecuadorian embassy to avoid being put on trial for his unpleasant behaviour in Sweden. Nothing at all ever was about the USA. That was all crap invented by Assange and his windowlicking apologists long after he'd outstayed his welcome in that embassy. By making such a stupid spectacle of himself he pretty much invited the USA to apply for his extradition. If he'd gone to Sweden and served his two or three years in luxury he'd have been out and carrying on as usual. It's no wonder that he's looked on like a turd on a shoe. Britain doesn't care where the turd ends up, just please be on someone else's carpet.
Please to not insult turds, especially the turds on shoes. It's not their fault you stepped on them!
 

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This isn't the end of the story, though, since

Goldspring told Assange: “In layman’s terms, I am duty bound to send your case to the secretary of state for a decision.”

As well as being able to make submissions to Patel, Assange’s lawyers can also access other routes to fight his extradition. This could include mounting a challenge on other issues of law raised at first instance on which he lost and have not yet been subject to appeal.
Whatever I think of Assange, I hope his appeal on some of the other issues of law is successful since they have important implications for legimate journalists who are simply trying to do their job.
 

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So he's an illegitimate journalist ??
Whatever he is, I don't regard him as a journalist. However, the extradition request is so widely phrased as potentially to criminalise what most people would regard as legitimate journalism. Possibly the US could have drawn up a more narrow request that raised fewer ECHR issues but, as it stands, I think it would set some dangerous precedents if some of the activities complained about are grounds for extradition.
 
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I just want to see Assange bundled on an plane to Australia. Straight from Belmarsh to Heathrow, with ball gag and handcuffs. No press conferences, no appeals to stay in the UK because he got some lawyer pregnant. Just ship him out so we don't have to suffer him anymore.